Carlin,  Utterly useless you say.
I disagree.  He is a young man with a zeal for God,how about you,or are you 
 wanting to be popular with everyone on this board.
  gouda

Ah, Red sable,
but I do know a bit about shtal from early on, unless he lied to me.

In fact true, LOL.
In fact?
Where are the facts?

What you in fact have is a book.

This is not about evil, it is about balance.

Not a popularity contest.
 

When anyone decides to participate in a public forum, airing their dirty laundry or simply forwarding their opinion, they are at the same time accepting the opinions of everyone who would like to comment - period.

As a Christian, I take seriously the nonsense that is being forwarded in the name of Christ, and the damage that is being done to the gospel message. Really, what is accomplished by continually declaring to an atheist (one already familiar with the gospel) that he is "going to burn in hell" -seriously, how "Christlike".

RS - If shtal is a "novice" (he'd be too proud to ever admit to that anyway), he should not presume to "teach", biblically speaking. If he does presume to "teach" or "preach", he ought be ready to establish his message and intent with the same scriptures he so readily thumps. If someone came on PDB claiming some nonsense about black gsd's having superior fight drive, they should expect to be met with some rather sharp criticism, and rightly so, as there is a community of enthusiasts here all responsible in part for the breed as whole. Christianity is no different.

gouda - Simply because one is zealous does not mean one is both called and equipped, and in this case, the fruit stinks to high heaven. I'm not down on shtal, or have anything against him, but as long as I am entitled to my own opinion of his clanging, I am compelled to expose it in the light of the truth, as I would with anyone. I'm not crazy about all the videos he posts, but as is the case in this thread, it ended up with his pompous behind denigrating someone in the name of God. He says "this is the scripture I will use against you" - Really? That's what we're all about? Popularity gouda? My faith isn't any more accepted here by some than my views on gun legislation by others. I call it like I see it. As far as Christianity, I'm all about the truth, and not about to jump in anyone's "camp". In another post, shtal eluded to me "playing both sides", as if this were some kind of adolescent game. In that context, both you and he were singling out Ruger on something, and because I did not agree I simply had to be "on her side"; silly.
 

Carlin
I'll single out anyone with a damnable doctrine. That is the way it is.
Ruger believes I'm a missfit by her own admission.
Now do tell me Carlin, does the bible teach the doctrine that she is trying to push here on predestination
as Ruger1 sees it.?
Actually I would love to ask all the born again Christians on the board this guestion.
because Ruger1 stated that Sthal and I are missfits  by some of our own kind {christians} here.

P.S.  Keep strong Sthal,the LORD is on your side.

   gouda

Carlin,

I am also entitled to my own opinion...I usually never says such stuff, and God forbids me say such stuff (and no offense) you want to be smart*** is that what it is?


It is over a year now I have been constantly attacked and mocked on PDB by members and non-stop misspelling my name calling me SHIT...How conscience will let you anyway (accusing in me) and other things and as well that I said to Moons "this is the scripture I will use against you" - Really?
Yes really!!! - People know that I rarely participate in someone else's threads, usually I create and post my own threads...I am human that have limits and have patience that sometimes runs out.
Also, don't forget while back when you had minor incident with administration you got banned because of your attitude "how christian is this?". I am pretty sure if you where in my shoe all this time you would probably hypothetically speaking cursed people by now on this board like Elisha did.


Let me refresh your memory what the scripture says:

2 Kings Chapter 2
23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

Proverbs Chapter 30
10 Accuse not a servant unto his master, lest he curse thee, and thou be found guilty.

(clarification) Proverbs Ch30 it was supplement for 2 kings Ch2 NOT for Carlin.



btw, are you brave enough to answer gouda's question OR are you going to run away?

Carlin
I'll single out anyone with a damnable doctrine. That is the way it is.
Ruger believes I'm a missfit by her own admission.
Now do tell me Carlin, does the bible teach the doctrine that she is trying to push here on predestination
as Ruger1 sees it.?
Actually I would love to ask all the born again Christians on the board this guestion.
because Ruger1 stated that Sthal and I are missfits  by some of our own kind {christians} here.

Poor Shtal, we should all shed a tear. Your stupidity has brought on the ridicule, it just so happens the subject is religion.

  Carlin expressed my same sentiments....Reminding all of US that    “Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven  Matthew 21:7.

 In the end times there will be those who profess the name of Jesus and know not HIM....we must study to show ourselves and we must learn and depend on the HOLY SPIRIT  to indwell in us and lead us to decisions and let no Mans
words or teachings   sway us to and FRO

With out Grace there is no peace...Let no mans teachings lead you astray or lead you into a path of anything like what I see written here.  Name calling such as smartass etc is not that of speech of a Christ like person...Other names and arguements here are not of Christ like behaviour..WE are not GODS , we are sinners living out lives as a short example of what God wants us to live and be and do. I have  a very hard time keeping my own anger under a bush when I see the word you Christian &(&(&(&&(&(_(_( and other such phrases...Why is this all necessary...NOT every man woman or human who says they are a Christian is or has any path of life to witness their claim
I am not perfect , nor right all the time  or better than any other person anywhere but cannot fathom the names called here lately using the word Christian with the negative words either behind or in front of..

Just remember :  none of us deserve the Eternal Life we are given by a God who we chose to believe in , but we do deserve the forgiveness he gives us all for believing in Him and repenting and obeying HIM not mans words made up in a book that tries to explain things out of context..We live under a  new law and the old law is non existant. but not void to study,  so much of what is printed on pages here is not for the current day believer...nor is it for the disbeliever of today...a lot of scripture is posted here not revalant to situation and is explained by a man from somewhere somehow and has no reputation of being correct...Check out the source...if reputable  read and study to show thy self approved.....much study and prayer brings much peace and joy,  which is what GOOD brings not a product of  evil....

NOW back TO TEXAS

CRAWFISH FESTIVAL THIS WEEK END........YEAH

YR



 

 

 

Yes, predestination is biblical. Predestination is the teaching that God has, from all eternity, freely determined whatsoever shall come to pass. We find this in Ephesians 1:11 which says, “also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will.” Notice Paul teaches that predestination occurs according to the purpose of God and that God works all things after His will. The "all things" means exactly that, all things.

The word predestination comes from the Greek proorivzw "prooridzo." The word occurs six times in six verses in the New Testament.

1. Acts 4:28, “to do whatever Your hand and Your purpose predestined to occur.”
2. Romans 8:29-30, “For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the first-born among many brethren; 30 and whom He predestined, these He also called; and whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.”
3. 1 Corinthians 2:7, “but we speak God’s wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom, which God predestined before the ages to our glory.”
4. Ephesians 1:5, “He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will.”
5. Ephesians 1:11, “also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will.”

By looking at these verses we can see that predestination reveals God's great sovereignty and right to do with His creation as He desires. But also we can see that predestination deals with salvation. Unfortunately, many Christians do not accept the biblical teaching on predestination. Many do not like the idea that God predestines people for salvation, but the fact is the Bible teaches it.

We might say that there are two main views concerning predestination. One is the view that God has foreknowledge; that is, he knew who would choose Him and those are the ones He predestined to salvation. The other idea is held by Calvinists who believe God sovereignly, of His own free will, predestined certain people to be saved, and His choice is not based upon looking into the future to see who would pick Him.

Either way, predestination is found in the Bible and it is a doctrine that we must accept. So, to find which view you think is most biblical, study the above list of verses in their context and see if you think that God predestines according to the expected future human choices or not.

Study to show yourself approved.................ask the Holy Spirit to lead you to find out how to interpret the BIBLE....this is pretty simple above...DO NOT TWIST GODS WORDS.................................

DO NOT ACCEPT MENS INTREPRETATION ALONE.......READ and go to men who know scripture and have years of knowledge to explain...PREDISTINATION IS a hard subject but above Mike Slick put it into words you can understand and where both ways came from...one is slightly not real   one is ...I chose to let you find the right way by prayer and study...

YR

 

 

THE posting should have been read all together from Proverbs 30 :1-16  and see if this is to rebuke a brother in CHRIST OR is this a chapter written for other purpose only to be used if out of text to mean Punish with this text>>??
Who is gonna do the cursing, which GOD does not do any longer, and man is not to use his tongue for cursing so what is the context used for telling Carlin about accusing someone here of something...GOD does not curse people he gives them if they ask, repent and change their way of talkling, acting, scoffing or accusing one of a discretion,   etc, a forgiveness......I find no where GOD is gonna curse me for accusing someone who is not my servant nor my master...Jesus is the only man servant or being I serve or listen to or am accountable to ..not in my BIBLE>>>this proverbs text is for the exhortation to the three men mentioned who do not even know WHO IS THE LORD>>>> read the whole scripture for when and to whom it is intended.

HEY  RED SABLE    SHILOAM.....EMAIL ME.....
I do not  think this scripture is right to tell someone you do not agree with their version or opinionl....not in line at all...

YR