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gouda

by gouda on 07 May 2013 - 08:05

Not to see evil,or recognize evil-------- IS EVIL

gouda

by beetree on 07 May 2013 - 09:05

Jodi Arias = Evil
Devil Smile

 

On The Scale Of Evil, Where Do Murderers Rate?

Columbia University professor Michael Stone knows evil. He's a forensic psychologist — the type of expert that provides testimony on the mental state of accused murderers when a declaration of insanity can mean the difference between life and death row.

Inspired by the structure of Dante's circles of hell, Stone has created his own 22-point "Gradations of Evil" scale, made up of murderers in the 20th century. "I thought it would be an interesting thing to do," he says.

His scale is loosely divided into three tiers. First are impulsive evil-doers: driven to a single act of murder in a moment of rage or jealousy. Next are people who lack extreme psychopathic features, but may be psychotic — that is, clinically delusional or out of touch with reality. Last are the profoundly psychopathic, or "those who possess superficial charm, glib speech, grandiosity, but most importantly cunning and manipulativeness," Stone says. "They have no remorse for what they've done to other people."

Stone hopes the scale could someday be used in prosecutions. "The people at the very end of the scale have certain things about their childhood backgrounds that are different," he says, from those who appear earlier in the scale. And because the scale follows a continuum of likelihood a killer will kill again, courts may be able to better categorize the risks posed by releasing a psychopath.

Conspicuously absent from Stone's scale are wartime evil-doers. "My scale is a scale for evil in peacetime," he says. That's because assessing wartime evil from a criminal-psychological standpoint is more complicated because of factors like culture, history and religion."

And in war, there are often two sides. Take Hitler, Stone says. "He thought we were evil, we thought he was evil." But, he adds, "in that particular case, we were right."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129175964

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 07 May 2013 - 09:05

Hundmutter,At least you recognize the humor in what Travels is asking,,lol...

Travels,,If you would take the time to go back through and re-read the posts I think you will find that I have already answered your question..I have said at least twice that my standard is based on biblical principles~

I do not have a personal scale with which to measure out evil,,,lol,,,I do not believe that in our limited knowledge we are equipped to make such a scale of measurement with absolute certainty..or judgment might be a better word for it..We must be very careful when making judgments about peoples actions....I am confident that God in His wisdom, will give everyone exactly what their actions deserve, so I do not get hung up on trying to evaluate everything others do...

With that said, I do however have a personal disdain for any action against the helpless..Examples would be the mistreatment of or harm to children, the elderly, and animals, but even with that said, I do not measure the evil of these actions on a scale as you suggest...How do I determine whether an action is right or wrong?..Well, it ultimately comes from my understanding of the principles taught in the Bible ..Now, add to that a little cultural experience, a splash of personal experience, a dash of personal preference and there you have it, Deanna's Scale of Measurment..Not sure how accurate a measurement it is, but it is the only one I have presently..lol,,,I have the liberty to apply this "scale of measurement" to the world around me and must apply it..I do so however, very carefully. Knowing that I am not the final authority in the matter,,,

by desert dog on 07 May 2013 - 11:05

Evil, can be a lot of things. Some forms are worse than others. I believe every one is only a heart beat away from killing someone, in the right circumstance. But once they are dead they are dead, then the pain is gone. Words can be one of the highest forms of evil I know of when they destroy some ones life and yet they have to live a life time, where they still have a physical life but their spirit is dead because of words some one has said to them. They then live all their life but are dead inside. I have seen a lot of kids who live in torment every day just because they have had things said to them that kills their heart but have to live with it sometimes for a lifetime. A gunshot to them would seem to be merciful. Seems that somewhere I read that life and death is in the power of the tongue. Unfortunately the trigger gets pulled way to easy.

Hank

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 07 May 2013 - 12:05

Hank,,Proverbs 18:21 might be the verse you are referencing..What a powerful tool the tongue is indeed..Nice post..

And yes, I do believe as well, as hard as it is to imagine; that no one is exempt from the very same acts we despise of in others,,We should think twice before getting too comfortable in our skin...It is a wise person who is well acquainted with their capacity to sink lower then they think they can...

by beetree on 07 May 2013 - 12:05

I think I will see if I can give GSDTravels the type of answer she is looking for:

In the absence of any type of religious based morality or code, there are only consequences to our actions, or even inactions. The consequences that help us, would seem to be good, and the ones that hurt us, would be perceived to be evil. "Us", of course could be on a personal scale, or even meant in a more collective, and massive "us".

Thinking

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 07 May 2013 - 13:05

Bee - re. Stone:  "22 point"  ?  Jeez, had enough trouble
with 10 ...





 


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