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by Two Moons on 07 March 2013 - 20:03
LOL....
by beetree on 07 March 2013 - 21:03
Knock, knock.. you are putting the old aspartame carte before the horse ever became chocolate. Why is that so hard to understand? It isn't a redefining of MILK! It is a redefining of sweetener when added to a FLAVOR used in MILK!
The issue isn't to not know what is in our milk, the issue is what is used as a FLAVOR to anything milk, that is what needs the education.... not the raw MILK..... geeze.. I get tired of this. Praise Jesus, Halleluia!
The issue isn't to not know what is in our milk, the issue is what is used as a FLAVOR to anything milk, that is what needs the education.... not the raw MILK..... geeze.. I get tired of this. Praise Jesus, Halleluia!
by BabyEagle4U on 07 March 2013 - 21:03
Like I said - if it's not RAW Milk .. it's cow juice. lol
by joanro on 07 March 2013 - 21:03
Bee, WHERE did I say RAW milk? The article clearly says REDEFINE MILK, so that aspartame can be in milk used to make milk PRODUCTS, therefore the shit doesn't need to be on the label. In other words they want to reinvent what milk is made of, as tho aspartame is a natural part of the makeup of milk....hence, REDEFINE. Now where does the article say RAW milk, neither did I. Yogurt, for example is made with milk, to sweeten the yogurt, instead of adding aspartame, the aspartame is in the redefined milk as tho it came out of the cow that way. Who knows, maybe they can figure out a way to GM cows so that they can squeeze the aspartame out of a cow's tit. Then it won't need to be redefined. Read the article.
by hexe on 08 March 2013 - 00:03
Please, read the actual REGULATION as it presently stands.
Each of the products named have very specific guidelines which must be met in order for the product to be labeled 'milk', 'yogurt', etc. If ANYTHING is added to the basic product, it (a) MUST be on the list of approved additives and (b) MUST be declared as having been added on the product's label, if the manufacturer/processor wants to be able label and sell the product as MILK, or YOGURT, or WHIPPED CREAM. Look at the basic carton of milk that's sold in any given store in the US. Nearly all of it has had supplemental vitamin D added to the fluid milk--and it says so right on the label. Ditto for pasteurization--it states it right on the label. Homegenization--on the label. The Country Crock spreadable butter that I prefer to use--it has a small amount of canola oil added to enable it to be spreadable right out of the refrigerator; because the canola oil, and the amount used, is approved as an additive for butter, the tub can be labeled as 'butter', not a 'dairy spread'. If the manufacturer shifts the blend a bit to use less butter and more canola oil, they have to stop calling it 'butter' and now have to label and market it as 'dairy spread'. Same goes for ice cream--it has to contain a certain amount of actual cream in order to be labeled and sold as ice cream; when the companies try to cut costs and use more non-fat milk and less cream, their product now becomes ice milk, or if they cut even more of the cream out, it has to be called a 'frozen dairy dessert'.
That's ALL the petition seeks to do--to add aspartame to the products that are permitted to be added to the fluid milk and still have that product qualify as 'milk' or 'yogurt' and so forth. IF the aspartame is added to the product, it will still have to be declared on the product's label, along with the vitamin D--despite the claims to the contrary of the zealots. It's part of my job to know and be able to interpret federal regulations of various spheres of activity, and the petition ONLY seeks to change that single part of the regulation that right now would not allow the processors to sell anything they've added aspartame to as anything other than a 'milk beverage' or 'yogurt blend'.
And again, I must stress that the dairy farmers are NOT the ones behind this petition, either--they're quite against the concept, and don't believe there's any such need for the addition of artificial sweeteners to milk, flavored or otherwise. The corporations and their representatives, although they claim to be the 'voice' of the actual dairy farmers, are the ones who are championing this bad idea.... It's not a 'bad idea' because it's going to be done clandestinely, as is being claimed with unnecessary alarm--it's a bad idea because it's not going to achieve the end that the sponsers say it will [reducing childhood obesity] and since it won't do that, why feed kids this man-made sweetener? They'll get enough artificial crap in other stuff...they sure don't need more of it in their milk.
Each of the products named have very specific guidelines which must be met in order for the product to be labeled 'milk', 'yogurt', etc. If ANYTHING is added to the basic product, it (a) MUST be on the list of approved additives and (b) MUST be declared as having been added on the product's label, if the manufacturer/processor wants to be able label and sell the product as MILK, or YOGURT, or WHIPPED CREAM. Look at the basic carton of milk that's sold in any given store in the US. Nearly all of it has had supplemental vitamin D added to the fluid milk--and it says so right on the label. Ditto for pasteurization--it states it right on the label. Homegenization--on the label. The Country Crock spreadable butter that I prefer to use--it has a small amount of canola oil added to enable it to be spreadable right out of the refrigerator; because the canola oil, and the amount used, is approved as an additive for butter, the tub can be labeled as 'butter', not a 'dairy spread'. If the manufacturer shifts the blend a bit to use less butter and more canola oil, they have to stop calling it 'butter' and now have to label and market it as 'dairy spread'. Same goes for ice cream--it has to contain a certain amount of actual cream in order to be labeled and sold as ice cream; when the companies try to cut costs and use more non-fat milk and less cream, their product now becomes ice milk, or if they cut even more of the cream out, it has to be called a 'frozen dairy dessert'.
That's ALL the petition seeks to do--to add aspartame to the products that are permitted to be added to the fluid milk and still have that product qualify as 'milk' or 'yogurt' and so forth. IF the aspartame is added to the product, it will still have to be declared on the product's label, along with the vitamin D--despite the claims to the contrary of the zealots. It's part of my job to know and be able to interpret federal regulations of various spheres of activity, and the petition ONLY seeks to change that single part of the regulation that right now would not allow the processors to sell anything they've added aspartame to as anything other than a 'milk beverage' or 'yogurt blend'.
And again, I must stress that the dairy farmers are NOT the ones behind this petition, either--they're quite against the concept, and don't believe there's any such need for the addition of artificial sweeteners to milk, flavored or otherwise. The corporations and their representatives, although they claim to be the 'voice' of the actual dairy farmers, are the ones who are championing this bad idea.... It's not a 'bad idea' because it's going to be done clandestinely, as is being claimed with unnecessary alarm--it's a bad idea because it's not going to achieve the end that the sponsers say it will [reducing childhood obesity] and since it won't do that, why feed kids this man-made sweetener? They'll get enough artificial crap in other stuff...they sure don't need more of it in their milk.
by joanro on 08 March 2013 - 11:03
It's not only 'kids' that are going to be 'fed' man-made sweetener, it's any one who consumes the products. Even people who are smart enough to not want aspartame in their system, they won't know it's there by reading the label. Unless they have read the report, they won't know it's in the 'redefined milk'.
by Blitzen on 08 March 2013 - 11:03
They will know if they read the lable since it will have to be listed.
by joanro on 08 March 2013 - 11:03
No, that is what the who thing is about...NOT listing aspartame on the label, since they will redefine milk used in milk products. Read the article.
by Two Moons on 08 March 2013 - 11:03
I don't think they can read anything with much understanding.
by Blitzen on 08 March 2013 - 12:03
Quoting Hexe........
"Each of the products named have very specific guidelines which must be met in order for the product to be labeled 'milk', 'yogurt', etc. If ANYTHING is added to the basic product, it (a) MUST be on the list of approved additives and (b) MUST be declared as having been added on the product's label, if the manufacturer/processor wants to be able label and sell the product as MILK, or YOGURT, or WHIPPED CREAM."
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