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by ValK on 06 September 2021 - 21:09

seems like on the border they are trying to recreate past type of GSDs.





by duke1965 on 07 September 2021 - 04:09

valk, commercial breeders are in it for selling pups first, someone send me a pedigree ling recently on PDB from a well known breeder, the pedigree could have been from any commercial breeder today, famous dog, bred to daugter of famous dog, bred to daugter of famous dog, that is not breeding IMO, thats producing pups for purpose of selling.


by johan77 on 07 September 2021 - 16:09

Valk, the pictures you posted earlier showed some difference in looks also and not all of the same type, looks not so different from many dogs today. Did the former DDR breeders pay more attention to looks than the workingline breeders did in westgermany? The footage I´ve seen from DDR-dogs in the late 80s there seemed to be dogs ranging from looking more like showlines in anatomy to "normal" looking dogs with not so big size and mass. But of course also more the more "masculine" type. Maybe not so different from west because they had shows and sport/working events also there and not all breeders had the same taste as today;)

The breed already have changed more than once in history in structure but before the 70s they seemed pretty similar in structure, after that even some workinglines started to get more "showy" in structure and I guess this wouldn´t have happened if structural type was selected by function first.


by ValK on 08 September 2021 - 16:09

duke, can you name non commercial breeders of today's?

johan, i wouldn't say dogs in earlier post "not so different from many dogs today". sure they do have alike standing ears, four legs and tail.
b.t.w. they did bark too :) and similarity pretty much ends on this.
you see, structural appearance of those dogs was based on desire to have physically strong dogs with high endurance capacity and to be effective real life a manstopper if situation come to this. everything you can see in build of those dogs has rational reasons, founded on purposes dogs been used for. dogs, bred at border, never been meant to other purposes. i will leave alone temperament aspects, which was very different from used modern one.
in regard of civilian breeders in DDR, i wasn't part of it and cannot say why they bred as they did it. you should take to consideration diversity of purposes dogs was used for, amount of people involved and variety of different conceptions every individual has. fashion trend of the day also can't be discounted as well. dogs of the 80s did become more light weighted and more picturesque in sport spectacles than earlier dogs.





 


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