by zigzag on 05 December 2019 - 18:12
by Jenni78 on 06 December 2019 - 12:12
I have seen many x-rays like that where the dog has never limped so I would not be positive that there is a primary lesion causing his pain. If you could find it affordably, you might CT and look for a cause. If none, then it is DJD and pano, and I would not do surgery.
Have you made sure that there is nothing in his shoulder causing pain?
by zigzag on 06 December 2019 - 15:12
He hasn't been on any medication for awhile. He doesn't limp because we keep him very quiet. No ball playing no running just goes out to do his business and when we are out with him he will follow us around. And in the house we keep him very calm. But when he has slept for a bit and gets up it's very slow and moves slow till he walks a few minutes. Sometimes it looks he limps the first couple of steps. I'm curious has anyone have elbows operated on and what is the success rate. And will I still have to keep my boy calm?
by zigzag on 07 December 2019 - 11:12
Elbow - L and R Grade 2
DJD - L and R
FCP- L and R
by zigzag on 26 December 2019 - 15:12
by Rik on 26 December 2019 - 18:12
this is a breed,developed and bred for the express purpose of very high, very stressful, stop and go, reverse direction on a dime activity of "herding".
if a dog can't play ball, and not injure itself, it's really not on the owner.
by Hundmutter on 27 December 2019 - 03:12
Passing the tests does not 100% prevent HD and ED, or any DJD, however; it is still risky. These are conditions endemic to the canine species, they are influenced by a range of genetic configurations and some environmental factors, and they are therefore really difficult to eradicate completely, from the GSD breed or other dogs. Unfortunately there is still an element of pure luck involved in dog ownership. If joint problems don't getcha, something else is almost certain to ! (Auto-immune diseases; skin troubles; epilepsy...).
At least this breeder has indicated willingness to X ray the elbows on the two he has kept; it's not a lot, and it doesn't help you and your poor dog, but if he sticks to that you may have inadvertently helped someone else for the future by reducing their risks.
by mrdarcy on 27 December 2019 - 04:12
Had a year old male get one elbow operated on many years ago. The recovery period was the hardest part trying to keep a young lively male at rest for heeling was hard. We got there though and he was given to a family as a pet and never looked back. We were told by the vet at the time he may be bothered with arthritis at an earlier age but he never did as far as I know. Always got good reports from his new owner, but we did loose touch several years back, so haven't heard how he is doing now.
by zigzag on 30 December 2019 - 15:12
by Mike D on 08 January 2020 - 15:01
Others may want to know which lines to be aware of.
ED has a better chance of being heritable than HD.
Also maybe let others know who the breeder is?