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by bladeedge on 25 October 2018 - 19:10
i have a litter at the moment and have an opportunity to send some pups to America.im trying to decide if it is worth my while . i have no problem getting homes here iv 10 pups and have much more homes than i need but this could be a good opportunity to branch out across the pond.
by susie on 25 October 2018 - 20:10
American buyers do import because the pups (espacially East European pups) are cheaper than American bred pups.
They don't want to pay $2000 or more for a European puppy (including shipping!).
by bladeedge on 25 October 2018 - 20:10
by Prager on 25 October 2018 - 20:10
Joan: So according to you, anyone who only produces one litter a year are not producing quality gsd?
Hans: You see here you go again, you and your misunderstanding of my written text. Nowhere have I said the person who has one litter does not produce quality dogs. There are many breeders who have produced a 1 litter per year or less and yet tey produce quality dog.You would be one of them. What I have said is: "Now there may be exceptions but those are usually not serious breeders who want to improve the breed but they are breeders who produce 1 litter or so a year as a hobby." what I mean is that there are breeders who are going somewhere in their breeding program and have the intention to improve GSD as such and for that purpose they need to breed more than one litter per year if they want to make a dent in it. If someone wants to improve the breed as such then they maintain 2 to 5 bloodlines and are having a breeding program where they are planning breeding at elast 3-7 generations ahead and they do so with specific intentions to eliminate one after the other problems which each line has. Breeder of one litter of dogs per year cannot significantly influence the bloodline-s and GSD as such regardless of what is the quality of the dogs they produce.
FYI I was not targeting you in my last post but here we see in practice the saying: "If you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one the rock hit."
Joan: I have a good warrenty...but guess what? When quality dogs with excellent care are bred, instead of mass producing for maxmum monetary gain, I have not had any requests to replace any pups...I have however offered to buy a couple pups back when I discovered the home I placed them in was a big mistake...you know, like the goofball in your thread, " This add!!! "
Hans( Prager): So you are telling us that all the dogs you have ever produced were perfect?
by Prager on 25 October 2018 - 20:10
Susie:
People who make a living out of puppies need to produce, and they need to sell...no matter the quality...
Hans:
Interesting,....So that I understand; are you insinuating that people who breed dogs for living produce and sell lower quality and people who do not sell for living produce high quality?
by joanro on 25 October 2018 - 21:10
No, but they have not " turned to shit" as you said you cover for in your warrenty.
You are very defensive, pragre. You make a comment, I respond to your *comment* as it is, not that I take it personally. But I do ask questions pertaining to your comments....but you never answer them. You only turn the dialogue to personal attack, as in "throw a rock and the dog that helps......"
As for " make a dent" in " improving" the breed....one litter a year won't improve the breed, and neither is your partner producing thousands of puppies a year or whatever the number.
The reason being, that there are many more crap dogs being produced which will never be affected by your partner's dogs, nor by my dogs. Because those crappy dogs genetics will always be reproduced and never be improved by any quality dogs simply because there are way more crappy gsd being bred world wide than quality gsd being bred.
And if they did come together, the crap genetics will over ride the quality genetics...just try " improving on " total crap gsd in one or two generations....like weak nerves.
That's why it's important to start with quality in order to maintain quality.
by Prager on 25 October 2018 - 21:10
This was a thread about pricing of the dogs. I tried to give a fair assessment based on my experience being in dogs for 50+ years. I can not dignify this joans nasty posts with the answer. I am done here. .
by joanro on 25 October 2018 - 22:10
What nasty posts?
Hans( Prager): So you are telling us that all the dogs you have ever produced were perfect?
Responding to your above question: I did not say that. I said I've never had a request to replace a puppy.
Because if one Starts with quality dogs and maintain the quality and you won't have puppies turn to shit.
But if one starts with shit, it's pretty well certain, you will produce puppies that turn to shit! Jmo.
by Rik on 26 October 2018 - 00:10
$2000.00 U.S. plus $1000.00 + for shipping (been a few years for me so not sure)
good luck.
just a question for you since many here in the U.S. have taken time to reply to your post, are you from Serbia?
Rik
by joanro on 26 October 2018 - 01:10
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