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Chaz Reinhold

by Chaz Reinhold on 19 April 2017 - 03:04

B.E.,
I haven't commented about your videos. I've watched them, and I'll give you one comment because you seem to want one. I wouldn't continue training a dog in protection that doesn't have interest in the helper/decoy after the out. Could be bad training, but I lean towards the dog. I've never had to redirect my dog to the helper after an out because he is staring off into space.

Chaz Reinhold

by Chaz Reinhold on 19 April 2017 - 03:04

B.E.
Your comment also leads me to believe that you didn't read my whole comment, or you didn't understand it. If you are out playing frisbee, your dog just doesn't bust into defense. Your dog reacts to what is presented, and you as the handler and trainer are in control of that.

Shawnicus

by Shawnicus on 19 April 2017 - 03:04

BE, there's a difference in a high prey dog that wants to fight and bring the fight than a dog who looks at it as a game , here's my theory on the two drives , I have both high defense dogs and prey monster, a highly defensive dog will protect you or himself with his life ...perhaps , a prey monster with a real fight drive is trying to kill you , cause he's looking at the decoy as prey , he's not defending the handler or self preservation , he's hunting the decoy /prey... 


Baerenfangs Erbe

by Baerenfangs Erbe on 19 April 2017 - 04:04

Chaz, "no interest in the helper after the out". That has absolutely nothing to do with that. It also has nothing to do with bad training. He's got severe inflammation on the larynx and trachea. He actually has to sit out from bitework for a while. He was hoarse for two weeks and while that has gotten better I can't put any leash pressure onto him for a while. He's never had any issues after the out until this whole thing started. There are more symptoms that led me to believe the worst and I had to take him to two different vets and a referral to a specialist to find out what was going on with him and to rule out  anything hereditary or cancerous. The inflammation is no joke. It actually mimicked symptoms of conditions that it could have been a tumor on the larynx or larynxial paralysis but that has all been ruled out.  He could barely eat or drink,  threw up water with a goose honking sound, gagged with goose honking sounds etc... he was exhausting much faster which is why he spaced out after the out... luckily it's "just" inflammation and all he needs is rest.

As for Shawns dog...I understood your post just fine. That's exactly what people have been trying to tell him. It is still very ironic.


by vk4gsd on 19 April 2017 - 05:04

Why were you doing extented durations on all that bark and hold stuff if you knew yr dog had a severely inflamed throat.

The video could have waited, Jeeeezus priorities.

yogidog

by yogidog on 19 April 2017 - 06:04

Agree vk .BE, I to never responded to you videos and that's because the mods say if u have nothing nice to say say nothing 😉

mrdarcy (admin)

by mrdarcy on 19 April 2017 - 08:04

Oh no Yogi by all means give an opinion just no need to do it in a nasty manner. No one can be " nice " all the time but being truthful, blunt and even showing your dislike can all be done in a civil polite manner. Now if you can't do that, then you say nothing


BlackMalinois

by BlackMalinois on 19 April 2017 - 09:04

 


Nice driven dog good training I also like the grips from this dog with some fight.

This kind of dogs is what LE needs. I believe this is what the goal is for this dog

And all that discussion about defense and prey at least 90 percent of real street LE situations with dogs
is in most times in  prey scenarios this is why LE departments likes high prey driven dogs just an observation.          

 


yogidog

by yogidog on 19 April 2017 - 10:04

Got ya mrdarcy thanks for clearing that up

Baerenfangs Erbe

by Baerenfangs Erbe on 19 April 2017 - 12:04

Because we didn't know for sure at that time what was going on until he got hoarse. I had a feeling something wasn't right but when the vet gave green light to work him again I thought he might just have to build up some stamina and needs more conditioning. However, once he got hoarse I knew that it had to do with the throat.

It's not like I just kept working him. He was under Veterinary supervision the whole time. I film everything, to watch it later. Sometimes, during training, there are things you don't even notice and you can go back and watch it again. The dog is my first priority, believe me. I'm just glad it's inflammation and not something hereditary that he could have passed onto his puppies.


And Black Malinois is right.
 






 


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