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by joanro on 09 January 2017 - 20:01

Lol @ Gustav... &;-)

by Gustav on 09 January 2017 - 20:01

I had a Marko son, that I titled in 1980. He had temperament similar to what you described Mithuna, and had an incredible herding instinct. Of course this might be that though he was a Seiger one of his parents was HGH titled. Much different from dogs today, but I have learned that my evaluation of him is inflated because the dogs of the past were much inferior to the dogs of today. If I had a magic wand, I would definitely bring him back, inferior and all.

by vk4gsd on 09 January 2017 - 20:01

So RS made up a false version of the standard to rant on, that's a surprise.

susie

by susie on 09 January 2017 - 20:01

Gustav, as long as any more or less serious working dog breeders feel the nedd to add and import titled dogs to their breeding stock on a regular basis, SV and the rest of Europe can´t be that wrong.
Otherwise there would be absolutely no need to import any titled dogs for decades now, your country bought a huge amount of our famous dogs in the past, and still does -
in case your breeders are able to breed outstanding German Shepherd Dogs ( 4 times as much as we do / year after year ) there should be no shortage of good dogs, and Europe should import from the States...
You should be leading in police dog training / selling world wide simply according to the total amount of German Shepherd Dogs bred.

Mithuna

by Mithuna on 09 January 2017 - 20:01

GustavThumbs UpThumbs UpThumbs UpThumbs Up

 

I was at a club in LI not too long a ago . I met a lady with a dog , and I asked her about the temperament. Her answer was .." if I tell you she is IPO3, what do you think"?.( could have heard the pride underneath her voice ).

To me the dog was unimpressive and had 0 presence. All the while I was there the dog paid 0 attention to me. I was like 3 feet from the lady and dog. Nothing nothing like that Marko grandson that led me to fall in love with the GSD. If my intitial contact was limited to that IPO3 and similar GSD's  I may have taken a different path/breed 


by Swarnendu on 09 January 2017 - 21:01

If I had a Magic Wand, I'd make my GSD act like a Malinois, but I'd not change my breed because I like the "looks" of a GSD more.

And, then I'd tell people that breeding for "looks" is what I despise the most.


by Swarnendu on 09 January 2017 - 21:01

America importing dogs from Europe is not SOLELY because European dogs are better.

What about,

Europe has a surplus
America has the market
European dogs are cheaper
Americans have the money

Etc. Etc....

susie

by susie on 09 January 2017 - 21:01

You are right, not SOLELY, only MOSTLY...

Only for clarification:

  • Europe has a surplus - There is no more surplus in Western Europe any more   ( at least for 5 - 8 years )
  • America has the market - no, America has ONE market, Asia is much more interesting for almost 15 years
  • European dogs are cheaper - EAST European dogs are the cheapest, that´s where a lot of Americans go for the last years now; they don´t ask for proof
  • Americans have the money - yes, they still do, and they don´t ask for real working abilities but feel the need to improve their own breeding stock

by Bavarian Wagon on 09 January 2017 - 21:01

America should definitely have the ability to meet the needs of the working people and sport people in this country. The United States, especially because of a lack of any kind of titling standard, should have absolutely zero issues being the top producer of working dogs in the world. Everything is set up in the United States in order to produce better dogs…but we don’t. The only reason people import is because the dogs in this country lack quality. The dogs aren’t cheaper by any means after you consider all the importing fees and costs. The main issue…everyone thinks they’re an expert on working dogs and they believe they’re producing amazing dogs. No need to compare them to others, as long as their pet clients come back with great reviews, they believe all their dogs are capable of titling and/or performing real work. Breeders in this country can’t be trusted…for every “legit” person that does actually produce what they claim (with or without titles) there are dozens who make claims and can’t produce what they promise. Come up with all the excuses/reasons you want, but at the core of it all the biggest difference is the titling requirement/lack there of between the United States and the countries of Central Europe.

by vk4gsd on 09 January 2017 - 21:01

Swarm, Surplus in euro, import & purchase costs are less than buying a dog stateside?

 

the US has a shortage of gsd puppies even tho you produce four times the number of registered dogs Germany does and have been importing/harvesting the best proven genetics in the Europe for generations.

You need to reevaluate your thinking skills.






 


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