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GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 28 July 2015 - 04:07

lol, my issue, lmao, no, whether you want to believe it or not it is socities issue and if you can't see it it then becomes your issue.

 

I am neither anxious nor paranoid, when others run away I tend to move forward. I will be the guy that dies trying but I will not be the guy who pulls the trigger.

I have read so many stories where a responsibile person has accidentally shot someone so please don't tell me it is my issue. That will not fly with me. I do appreciate you laying the blame at my feet though. I just choose to not own guns and will speak my mind as to why I will never own a gun nor will I allow guns in my home.

I also believe a lot of gun owners are okay but I still feel no safer. Because it only takes one second to make a mistake and a life is lost, I tend to value life way to much. I have seen pretty sane people lose control in a split second and I shudder what to think if a gun was present.

So, no matter how many guns you or anyone else owns or carries, I, you, them are no safer.

 

Are more nuclear weapons safer? More drunk drivers? More planes? When there is more of something, no matter how you or anyone else paints it the chances of something bad happening increase. So, is more better?

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/28/us/problems-riddle-system-to-check-buyers-of-guns.html

 


Mindhunt

by Mindhunt on 28 July 2015 - 17:07

GSD Admin - It takes one second and a life is lost.  Guess the question is would you prefer that life to be an innocent or the perpetrator of some violent act?  If you want a cause, how about domestic violence?

3 women are murdered every day by their current or former intimate partner

20 women a minute are victims of domestic violence by a former or current intimate partner

60% of domestic violence takes place at home

1 in 3 female homicide victims were murdered by their current or former intimate partner

More than 10 million children a year witness domestic violence

1 in 5 women have been raped in their lifetime

193 million women have been stalked in their lifetime by a former intimate partner

Every 9 seconds, a woman is beaten by her current or former intimate partner

Intimate partner violence is the leading cause of female homicide and injury related deaths during pregnancy

Domestic violence is the 3rd leading cause of homelessness among families ( women and children )

20% of women of intimate partner homicide were killed by the family or friends of the current or former intimate partner

72% of all murder-suicides involve an intimate partner, 94% of the victims of these murders are women

78% of women were killed in their place of employment by a current or former intimate partner or that partner's family or friends

Only 25% of domestic violence incidents are reported to the police so the above numbers are a fraction of the actual statistics

And you wonder why some women want a handgun and take the courses to properly utilize that handgun?  Like I said, I will NEVER be the victim of a violent crime again and I know quite a few women that feel as I do.  You don't feel safe because of handguns, most of these women were killed by beatings with fists, feet, and objects, NOT guns.........


by joanro on 28 July 2015 - 17:07

Not every one has the temperament or nerve strength to own a gun. Its a good thing that a person who is afraid of guns doesn't own them (that's the gun I'm taking abut, not a person holding it)

by joanro on 28 July 2015 - 17:07

This statement is absolutely untrue; 'Okay, it wasn't an illegal gun but you carrying it was. Because you expected the officer to do his job and take it.'

It was absolutely legal for me to have the gun in the glove compartment. And where do you get , I 'expected the officer to do his job and take it' ? He did his job and left it where it was.
You don't feel safer with me having a gun away from home? Well if you don't intend to do me bodily harm, you'll not ever see the gun.
Besides, its my safety I'm concerned with, not yours. If you are not trying to hurt me, I won't hurt you back.
Trying to equate responsible gun ownership with nukes is over reactive.

by joanro on 28 July 2015 - 18:07

Admin, why is your 'feeling safe' so wrapped up in what others are doing or not doing with their own private , personal lives?
If you were consistently decrying the risks of driving in traffic, seeing how terrible so many people drive, I could understand your morbid fear. More people are killed by vehicles every day than guns. You put yourself at REAL risk every time you get into a vehicle and join in the traffic lottery.

by joanro on 28 July 2015 - 19:07

The gun can be a real asset in a life and death situation...too bad all his victims didn't carry ....his last victim had presence of mind to pick up the serial killer's gun and pull the trigger.
here's the tale of the 'Falls conection' ( cops suspect a connection to all these hacked up women's deaths....really. Ya think? http://start.lenovo.com/news/read/article/the_associated_press-man_killed_by_escort_possibly_linked_to_missing_wo-ap

GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 29 July 2015 - 00:07

Right so give everyone a gun, because more guns is the only answer. Plenty of places are okay and they don't have guns in everyone's pocket, so let's just keep on keeping on and we will see.

Mindhunt

by Mindhunt on 29 July 2015 - 01:07

GSD Admin, I  guess I was so busy trying to out shout you and make my point, that I never asked you the reasons for your point of view (I am not asking you to do so publicly and really when it comes right down to it, it is none of my business unless you want to share, I just need to respect your point of view for whatever reason). 

I pretty much gave a reason of having survived violence and dealing with the court system.  My stalker successfully hurt me on many occasions and tried numerous times to kill me and not in pleasant ways.  His father was state law enforcement so he knew how to walk that fine line and still does.  That is all I will say on that matter.  It is a sad state of affairs when the perpetrators get more rights and protections than the victims.  My police officer friends could do nothing if he did not break the law or violate the PPO (personal protection order) and he rarely did unless he had an airtight alibi, got to love his group of friends and family.  Thankfully my officer friends believed me and did extra patrols.  My friends and my fiance took it upon themselves to take me to the scenario courses to learn the shoot/don't shoot and it was an eye opening experience.  That is why to this day I have protection trained dogs and weapons.  I will not live in fear ever again. 


by joanro on 29 July 2015 - 01:07

'.....more guns is the only answer.'

At least his last victim saved herself from winding up scattered all over the countryside. She/we are not in other places, we are here in a many times violent society. Its not always guns being used to murder, and the girl in that story was lucky to get her hands on a gun when she did. It was the only way she survived.

GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 29 July 2015 - 02:07

Oh yes one time it ended well so let's throw a party, I wonder why it has gotten more violent - more guns more death more violence, but I don't have a clue because I am anxious and paranoid, geez, it seems the paranoia and anxiety is very misplaced in this debate, SMH.





 


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