Maybe we should list the tea party as terrorists. - Page 3

The fact is more guns equal more deaths. Isn't it apparent by now? No blame, it is fact. I don't care if you are an excellent marksman and been shooting since you were weaned. More guns = more deaths.

Unfortunately, we haven't yet evolved enough to see it.

All this is is playing the blame game - mental health, no enforcement, legal drugs and on and on - the fact still remains more guns = more deaths. You want your guns to keep you safe from strangers and the government. Yippee, I feel safer already.

Safe from the government? How can guns keep a civilian safe from the government?
My guns aren't meant to keep you safe, but they do work well to keep a holes from poaching here. And they do come in handy for dispatching a rabid animal.
Blaming where blaming is due seems logical to me. No gun owning sane person ever committed mass murder.
More knives equal more mass murders, more hot cars equal more heat killed children.

If the crazies don't have guns, they use cars as weapons, and knives, hatchets, and bombs. Yeah, I know, guns kill from a distance. The two boys who stabbed and hacked their family members to death the other day, managed to kill a bunch more people than 'rusty' did with a gun.

Maybe - maybe not but the fact remains more guns = more deaths. It is fact.

You have your opinion and I have mine - I am good with that. I still feel no safer.

Let's just look at a little comparison here.  How well has the war on drugs worked?  Heroin and other schedule I drugs have been illegal for decades and the penalties stiff for use and selling.  Yet we still have a major problem with heroin overdoses, cocaine, meth, etc.  Yup making Schedule I drugs illegal has sure kept them out of the hands of criminals and violent people.  Schedule II drugs have a high potential for abuse but are necessary for pain management such as hydromorphone, methadone, meperidine, oxycontin, fentanyl, etc.  Yet the abuse of these medications still continues with the criminals and violent people having access to these medications.  Now the federal government has handed down strict laws that make the manufacture and legal distribution of these medication via a pharmacy very limited.  That means once the total grams of narcotic is reached, that pharmacy can no longer dispense narcotics for that quarter.  Same is true for drug companies, they can only manufacture so many grams of a narcotic then must stop until a new quarter starts.  Has this stopped the illegal abuse of pain medications? Hell no.  All it has done is make it difficult for those with legitimate pain management needs.  Hospice told us their medical director has to jump through all kinds of hoops to make sure patients are getting their pain managed.  They are in fear of the day the amount of narcotic they can dispense is lessened in the fight against drug abuse. 

See how banning Schedule I and severely restricting access to Schedule II drugs has worked against law abiding citizens and has not impacted criminals and violent people one bit????? 

So if banning use and sale of Schedule I drugs has not stopped the illegal use and severely restricting the use of Schedule II drugs has not stopped the illegal use, what in the flying fuzzy makes anyone think banning or severely restricting hand guns will keep them out of the hands of criminals?  It will only impact the law abiding citizen much like the current drug laws do.....

 

You go Joanro, kick those poachers a**es.  Can you do a canned hunt for them with paintball guns? Get a bunch of like minded friends together and have a hunt a poacher party?  Anyone hitting them with a paintball gets so many points and the one with the most points wins????

More guns = more deaths. Just like more drugs = more deaths. No difference. Do you honestly think a gun is going to save you? I sure don't feel safer.

How can you guys get better mental health when half your population calls POTUS a muslim terrorist anti-Christ commie illegal alien about to put the country under martial law to stay in power, bringer of the apocalypse for suggesting public health care.

Geez that was a mouthful, I learned all of the above right here on the OT forum.

Haha. Mindhunt, the guys who own adjoining land thought they would use the very steep, wooded acreage for a paintball club. They only had a couple sessions. I think the terrain was a lot rougher than they anticipated. So they decided to deer hunt on it instead.
They could only access it by coming in on our long driveway. One morning when we were driving back to the house on the gator, I had Otto running along, as usual.One of the hunters was walking down the hill of the driveway where the terrace path we were on joins it. He had his rifle slung over his shoulder, was a big old boy, but I didn't lookup to see him till I saw
Ottis, in front of us, lift his head and stiffen his tail over his back. In an instant Ottis was gathered up for the sprint to intercept the guy. I called him off, got out and walked to Ottis to put my hand under his collar. Even though my dog was absolutely silent, the guy's face pretty much blanched. I got Ottis to come with me after I put a leash on him, we turned up the drive the opposite way from the hunter, on to the house. Never saw one of those guys on the driveway again, but to this day, Ottis still looks up that direction when we make that turn to go home. Lol.

Your analogy using the failed 'war on drugs' is spot on. In fact, a 19 yr old guy was shot and killed last night in SC by a cop when a 'drug sting' went sideways. Guy's dead because of marywanna or whatever :*/