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Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 07 September 2015 - 06:09

Duke - frankly, less said about that inconsistent maverick  Wilhelmus Fortuijn

and the LPF  (who couldn't govern themselves as a Party, let alone Holland)

the better, surely ?  Apart from the odd neanderthal quote on womens' nature

(not unlike many British gay men of a certain generation)  Pim had some of

the right ideas but one could argue that his assimilationist, populist comments

on Islam were a contribution to Moslems feeling as angry with the West as

some do, thus fanning the flames of what we have been experiencing since

'9/11' ?


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 07 September 2015 - 06:09

Thumbs Up  Mindhunt  &  Joanro.

 

I  DO so miss the Like button !


by duke1965 on 07 September 2015 - 07:09

if america or any other country would be judged as a business today, the only word that would fit would be BANKRUPT

hundmutter, jou cant say Pim was responsible for the mess the LPF made after he was murdered, they cut of the head of the snake for the snake to die

but it is like it always is, to win elections or make the sale, fairytales work better than reality

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 07 September 2015 - 09:09

Ah Duke, but isn't that always the problem with political movements
based on "the cult of the individual", rather than founded on sound and
consistent policy beliefs ?

by duke1965 on 07 September 2015 - 10:09

but if people like Trump and Fortuyn tell some facts instead of fairytales a whole bunch of people gets upset, and a bunch of people gets worried to loose their freebies, why do you think Pim Fortuyn got shot, a whole bunch of freeloaders got really worried

what do you think will happen when hispanics and afro americans will have electoral majority in USA, or if muslims will have electoral majority in european countries, you will have the same freedom as christians in Syria now, looking forward to that ??

and it is really stupid to say Pim contributed to the anger of muslims that lead to the 9-11 attacks , who pissed of the IS people so bad to make them do what they do, do you really think sweet talking them will make them stop ?

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 07 September 2015 - 11:09

Oh, I believe that first and foremost the USA set up for the problems
of Al Quieda and IS; I just do not think the pronouncements of those
like Pim have helped along the way. No, I do not think "sweet talking"
will make terrorists stop; terrorism is madness wherever it occurs; but
I do believe just TALKING to other Muslem factions & communities
with respect for their viewpoint would help the West in general to deal
with the dissatisfaction it has created by its manipulating and manouvreing
of other countries' governments, and could help achieve alliances and
peaceful solutions - but Western governments are unwilling to do that.

by duke1965 on 07 September 2015 - 11:09

so you really think there are peaceful ways to end problems with al qaida, IS, Boko harm. etc

by LMH on 07 September 2015 - 12:09

NO.......it's absurd to think that

by duke1965 on 07 September 2015 - 12:09

hundmutter and Obama think it will work

by LMH on 07 September 2015 - 12:09

Well Duke......there you go.....hundmutter and Obama agree. Nothing more needs to be said. Two pinheads.





 


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