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Good post Jenny;

 I also would suggest a rawfood diet with once or twice a week greentripe i believe that's what you call it over there. Not the clean processed type but the dirty one that has still some content of the animals digested food on it.

In my experience it has a natural probiotics effect. Boosting the dogs intestine flora and strengthen his immune system. I once struggled with allergic issues also, by feeding raw i could select until i found the culprit chicken.

 

Since I am the one that mentioned Yeast as it was with the case with the dog I mentioned, I will respond to Jenni78's comment as she also mentioned yeast in her comment.

After dealing with our situation for about 6 months, not quite as long as it took to build Rome, but definitely longer than over night, a full panel of test were done and showed he had a reoccurring over growth of yeast which would happen after being stressed in some way.  In his case, it could be bitches coming in heat to the stress of separation anxiety.  These test were done after a change of diet to feeding only raw, among many other things that could eliminate any underlying or other cause for it to continue to reoccur. In our situation, it was not an on going continuous issue. It would come and go.  In 6 months he had 3 times.  Thankfully our vet did not give up and take the, "Im tired and lazy" way out.  He worked until he got to the real cause. Oh and he doesn't even know the Great Dane Lady. 

As for flea prevention and treatment, we have always done things the same way and it has always worked. To date not ONE of our dogs have been poisoned or become toxic because of chemicals due to flea treatment.  Maybe it has happened to others, but as I stated, not once to us. 

In conclusion, I feel as though there are too many other good dogs without issues, that this dog should be used in a breeding program and to do so,  would not be breeding to better the breed. Regardless of his potential or how awesome he is, it is NOT worth taking the risk to pass this on to someone else through his puppies.  I have not and will not breed a dog knowing the possibilities that undesirable traits, characteristics, colors or any issues can be produce. NOT knowing before hand is one thing. But to breed knowing the possibility exist because one of the parents had it or produced it before is not breeding to better the breed.  Obviously some are this kind of breeder, but we are not.

I am sure my statement will once again be contradicted, but I will no longer comment or respond as I intended my original comment to be just about sharing an experience we had. 

Edited to add: 
Weak immune systems can be helped, but the genetics that produced it still remain.  The only way to strenghtend the genetic part of a weak immune system is to try to eliminate it, by not using dogs with it in a breeding program. 

 

I was only giving my standard answer to "allergy" questions, as can be verified by reading any of my probable dozens of posts on the topic over the last decade, give or take. Additionally, my point was completely missed about toxicity. The dog becomes toxic to the biting insects- that's how they die. Whether someone i able to comprehends that correctly or not, it's not up for debate. That is how they work. It is impossible for them to work if the poison isn't in the dog's bloodstream. To say your dogs are not affected is patently false and a ridiculous and impossible conclusion. If the dog wasn't carrying poison in its bloodstream, the product wouldn't be able to do its job. Do people think this stuff is just a repellent?   Even those can be nasty...but I digress.

Personally, I have a real problem circulating neurotoxins in my dogs' bloodstreams on a regular basis. My dogs are at least part time house dogs. I am not putting something on my dog, meant to be absorbed into their body, if there is a warning that my child should not touch the dog and I should not let the dog swim in public water. Perhaps these chemicals really aren't as safe as we're led to believe? Perhaps they really COULD cause harm eventually? Moving on....

Wifey, you should have some good ideas to start with in this thread, at least. 

Just for fun, if anyone would like to do it, search side effects of the drugs (proper drug or chemical names, not brand names) listed in this article. http://www.petcarerx.com/article/how-do-flea-and-tick-treatments-work/141

Imidacloprid: http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/imidacloprid.pdf

Fipronil: http://www.beyondpesticides.org/pesticides/factsheets/Fipronil.pdf

Permethrin: http://www.pesticide.org/get-the-facts/pesticide-factsheets/factsheets/permethrin

A little article by Dr. Becker (who I used to take my dogs to before she got too famous/busy) about topical flea/tick treatments with links to studies and reported side effects (including side effects that many could mistake for ALLERGY side effects- itching, loss of hair, other skin problems, etc.) http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/03/03/toxic-and-unsafe-flea-and-tick-repellants-for-pets.aspx

 

Sarahmay's post was not there when I wrote mine. Seems like after reading that, people will not ask if I bred the dog anymore 

Sarahmay I removed your post NO ONE had me do it. You are off topic Make your own thread. Move on

You have a problem with my decision take it to PM's

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