Muzzle Question for experienced owners - Page 2

hntr

What do you define as poor nerves and  how does it manifest in an observable way in the dog? She is not spooked by noises ( even rumbling tains )  or strange sights, or surfaces. In our house she goes up and down a very sttep flight of polised wooden steps, and almost vertical steps into our basement. She never was and is not afraid of people. I could agree that she does have a low threshold to responding. can you clarify further?

A dog with poor nerves lacks confidence, and is more easily "set off" so to speak. You can see from what you have described in your last thread, " Shes  very defensive ( in a very fiery way)", as well as this one.  A puppy shouldn't be exhibiting extreme defense.

A dog can be environmentally stable, but still be thin nerved and unsocial with people. A low threshold with "responding" as you say with new people is a sign of poor nerves, she sounds like she is quite reactive, which goes back to confidence issues.

This thread can and will go round and round forever because the OP will discount all opinions that do not validate his/her beliefs as to what their dog is. People can keep on going and spending time explaining what poor nerves are and what this and that is and it wont make any difference.

OP, you are in NY, Gustav who is a member here is close to you, contact him, make an appoint and have him evaluate your dog, in person. Listen to what he tells you and than take it from there.

hn and Hired

If you go to other forums you would see people who argue the opposite; that low threshold " easily set off " and thin nerves are not the same thing, and low threshhold may or may not be accompanied by thin nerves. 

I can post a link:  http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/breed-standard/325369-suspicion-czech-shepherds-what-exactly-does-mean.html

OP,

If you are so certain in your belief that she has no fear aggression, poor nerves, etc, why do you keep asking for help for her undesirable behaviors? It is one thing to question someone else's thoughts on your dog, but you are just trying to argue that you are right.

Please do yourself and the puppy a favor and find a trainer to help you. It seems like you have a liability on your hands, and the answers and help you need are not going to happen over a forum. 

Absolutely, certain bloodlines produce dogs that are aloof, on the edgier side, etc. But what you have explained(IMO) is a puppy that is not social, confident, or with good nerves, but I guess that doesn't matter to you since you are going to stay in denial and argue that its her bloodlines. You owe it to your dog to get help and properly identify what is going on with her, and train accordingly.

hn

Im just trying to learn  things in a more meaninful way , rather than by " ipse dixit " pronouncements. If the arguments are logically developed and explained it is better.

So far as I can tell, you are making zero attempts to learn and every attempt to get attention. From what you keep saying, your dog is very young, aggressive to people and animals, and has NO training. What is wrong with you?! Do you really want a loaded gun on the end of your leash and you don't have the safety on?!  Get your dog evaluated in person by someone that knows what they are doing. Get some freakin training NOW before she bites someone as you seem to like to let your already vicious pup run loose in public - and no, putting a muzzle on her won't help. You need to learn to handle this dog and what it takes to live with a dog like this before someone gets hurt, as it's the dog that will lose in the end.

to answer the OP a basket muzzle provides good air-flow, is light and the dog can drink.

it is becoming common to muzzle stock dogs here as wild dog baits are scattered all over the place where stock are and the stock dogs are there as well. they usually use light wire buzzles that is ESSENTIAL THE DOG CAN DRINK THROUGH IT AND HAVE GOOD AIR-FLOW.

these stockdogs don't attack people tho so i would not trust the above type muzzle to stay on if your dog attacks someone.

these seem allright and good price, i heve never seen one tho;

http://store.clickertraining.com/baskerville-ultra-muzzle.html

depending on your state a dog lunging and growling at somoene can ne considered a menacing dog and result in lots of retsrictions on it.

If you really want to learn, turn the computer off and go see a trainer.

And as far as arguing logically, you have several people other than myself giving very similar opinions about your puppy, with REPEATED explanations and your mindset stays the same. Look up signs of stress and study dog behavior and body language. I definitely don't mind you asking questions about my opinions, but you insist that your puppy's obvious nervy and aggressive behaviors aren't really what they are. Your argument for her not having any issues is because she was well socialized, which won't keep a dog from having poor nerves.

Please don't confuse my rant for being rude about your dog, it is just frustrating to repeat myself only to get blown off for a lame excuse.

Just GO get help from a trainer before you end up with a lawsuit and a euthanized dog. It seems by your questions that you are new, and need some help. We all have to start somewhere.

Mithuna, right this moment, you have on your hands a dog whose natural instincts outstrip your knowledge--and there's nothing wrong with that, save for the fact that you should have begun formal training with her MONTHS ago, even if it was nothing more than basic obedience training. I have no idea if she's thin-nerved or not, since I've never met her, but either way, if you do not get your ass in gear and start driving this bus, you're likely going to end up with a lawsuit, and this dog, who looks quite serious and quite formidable in her photos, will end up paying for your foot-dragging with her life.

And BTW, I have one of the Baskerville muzzles, and while it was fine for my purposes--to keep my rescue dog from pinch-biting my female when he go frustrated--I would NEVER consider it adequate to keep any dog from biting a person. The basket isn't rigid enough to protect a human from a dog's bite.