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by Blitzen on 24 September 2013 - 09:09
Just what the breed needs.....more puppies from random, haphazard breedings. The owners of the stud dogs who allow these breedings to happen are as culpable as LTS. If anyone knows Steve of Vertraven, they should fill him in on this dog's past and hip status. I hope this bitch (dog) eventually ends up as someone's pet, but odds of that seem very slim.
by LadyFrost on 24 September 2013 - 09:09
never mind......too much drama.....
by vonissk on 24 September 2013 - 12:09
Zdog wow what a post--oh yes and I think you are so right cause some folks have to make $$ off their dogs--after all it is one's God given right--or according to her, her DH thinks so. I was skeptical about all this xray stuff and her change--but I gave her credit. And now I see it is like this--what I knew from the beginning but it had never been blatently laid out on the table.
And Blitzen, like the other deal I think it was marketing and I don't want to open that can of worms and maybe it is the same with this V person in KC. There are people who don't care. Like the lady with the stud in Mo..........it's all about the dollar bill. My last comment is you don't wait until the dog comes in heat to find a stud--should have already done that and be ready even if she comes in early........................
And Blitzen, like the other deal I think it was marketing and I don't want to open that can of worms and maybe it is the same with this V person in KC. There are people who don't care. Like the lady with the stud in Mo..........it's all about the dollar bill. My last comment is you don't wait until the dog comes in heat to find a stud--should have already done that and be ready even if she comes in early........................
by LOVE THY SHEPHERD on 24 September 2013 - 15:09
You guys are nuts !! When I get time I will try and put up the xrays. I don't
sit here all day like u guys, I have a life. No matter what I say you guys call
me a liar. My vet can read the xrays just fine, I don't need to send them in
just to tell me the same thing. He's not a newby.
Why is it when someone comes on here to complain, all of u pick on the
person that complains ? Yes, they started out to get the a stamp. Do I need
to repeat myself. I will not come on here again about this dog !
And now you guys act like other people don't sell their dogs too ???????
So now u guys are the expert and want to see the xrays, funny.
sit here all day like u guys, I have a life. No matter what I say you guys call
me a liar. My vet can read the xrays just fine, I don't need to send them in
just to tell me the same thing. He's not a newby.
Why is it when someone comes on here to complain, all of u pick on the
person that complains ? Yes, they started out to get the a stamp. Do I need
to repeat myself. I will not come on here again about this dog !
And now you guys act like other people don't sell their dogs too ???????
So now u guys are the expert and want to see the xrays, funny.
by Jetdog on 24 September 2013 - 16:09
I don't ever post on here; just come on to read, absorb info., and learn... But this thread makes me sad - not only for Farrah, but for people out there trying to educate themselves about the breed and acquire a nice dog or puppy. How can anybody breeding/selling a dog/puppies be believed anymore??? How can one go about ensuring they're dealing with someone reputable???
It's recommended to get references, well both of these breeders involved in this drama can provide references... and they both talk a good talk and have been able to sell numerous pups/dogs. Good sales pitch, or what?!
i know I don't know who to believe in this whole mess. Hopefully Farrah ends up in a great LIFELONG companion home, and LTS really does place her on a spay contract. i feel bad for anyone out there looking for a nice pup/dog who has to wade through all this crap and try to make an informed decision, and to the people that already bought pups from a dam with "allegedly" not passing hips, well, I hope their pups are doing alright...
Don't know if this post made sense, just wanted to vent a bit I guess. We're all supposed to be German Shepherd Dog lovers first and foremost, and when the dogs become a means to an end it's not good for the pups/dogs or their prospective owners. How disappointing this all is!
It's recommended to get references, well both of these breeders involved in this drama can provide references... and they both talk a good talk and have been able to sell numerous pups/dogs. Good sales pitch, or what?!
i know I don't know who to believe in this whole mess. Hopefully Farrah ends up in a great LIFELONG companion home, and LTS really does place her on a spay contract. i feel bad for anyone out there looking for a nice pup/dog who has to wade through all this crap and try to make an informed decision, and to the people that already bought pups from a dam with "allegedly" not passing hips, well, I hope their pups are doing alright...
Don't know if this post made sense, just wanted to vent a bit I guess. We're all supposed to be German Shepherd Dog lovers first and foremost, and when the dogs become a means to an end it's not good for the pups/dogs or their prospective owners. How disappointing this all is!
by LadyFrost on 24 September 2013 - 16:09
LTS...do you honestly not see that how you conduct yourself and what you say is the reason for negative comments?
by rtdmmcintyre on 24 September 2013 - 17:09
Just sitting here watching shaking my head. Yep the leopard has changed its spots. Now they are darker.
by LOVE THY SHEPHERD on 24 September 2013 - 17:09
I am done with all the drama on here !! I tell the truth and still get called names.
I HAVE NOT DONE A DAMN THING WRONG, EXCEPT BUY THE WRONG DOG.
YES SHE WILL HAVE A SPAY AGREEMENT AND AKC PAPERS WILL STAY
HERE UNTIL IT'S DONE. I AM SO ANGRY, I DO THE RIGHT THING AND STILL GET
CRITICIZED. SHE'S A GOOD DOG AND WILL ADJUST VERY EASY TO A NEW
HOME. I AM IN THIS TO GET GOOD DOGS FOR BREEDING/FAMILY/TRAIN THERE
IS NOTHING WRONG WITH PLACING A DOG, I WANT HER TO HAVE A GOOD FAMILY HOME.
YOU GUYS SUGGESTED I GET OFAS, HEALTH CERT. AND NOW THAT I'VE DONE
THAT, I'M STILL NO GOOD
THE PERSON I GOT HER FROM IS STILL CLAIMING SHE WILL REFUND MY MONEY
AND GET HER A GOOD HOME. DO U STILL SUGGEST I DO THIS ?? AND FOR
"POOR FARAH" GET A LIFE, SHE HAS A GOOD HOME HERE. BYE.............
I HAVE NOT DONE A DAMN THING WRONG, EXCEPT BUY THE WRONG DOG.
YES SHE WILL HAVE A SPAY AGREEMENT AND AKC PAPERS WILL STAY
HERE UNTIL IT'S DONE. I AM SO ANGRY, I DO THE RIGHT THING AND STILL GET
CRITICIZED. SHE'S A GOOD DOG AND WILL ADJUST VERY EASY TO A NEW
HOME. I AM IN THIS TO GET GOOD DOGS FOR BREEDING/FAMILY/TRAIN THERE
IS NOTHING WRONG WITH PLACING A DOG, I WANT HER TO HAVE A GOOD FAMILY HOME.
YOU GUYS SUGGESTED I GET OFAS, HEALTH CERT. AND NOW THAT I'VE DONE
THAT, I'M STILL NO GOOD
THE PERSON I GOT HER FROM IS STILL CLAIMING SHE WILL REFUND MY MONEY
AND GET HER A GOOD HOME. DO U STILL SUGGEST I DO THIS ?? AND FOR
"POOR FARAH" GET A LIFE, SHE HAS A GOOD HOME HERE. BYE.............
by Hundmutter on 24 September 2013 - 18:09
Jetdog, your post makes sense.
Feel free to vent anytime.
Feel free to vent anytime.
by Cesna on 24 September 2013 - 18:09
I guess, if you have followed the story of this dog, you will see that money has not been the issue nor the problem for me. I promoted Farah and she had a great home with me and my family. I can and will provide plenty of references to anyone needing them...my team of veterinarians can also testify to anyone the care and love that my dogs receive. I have never dealt with a buyer like the one in this case. Nothing has gone peacefully, even though I have tried everything to make it right.... I offered to buy the dog back when the buyer started complaining about every little thing...But, the buyer had bred Farah immediately upon receiving the dog, so of course, she did not want to give the dog up.. Again, it has been a burr in my side, and I just want to get over, what has been a year of problems with the buyer..Now, she wants me to buy the dog back, and pay for all of the testing she has done (brucellosis, DM, progesterone, new sets of xrays, AND MONEY FOR PAIN AND SUFFERING)...
Do I make a living or money from my puppies? Absolutely not! I have a good job and between my fiance and I, we are comfortable. Do I show/train/work my dogs? Absolutely and I love it! My dogs are my passion and I love what we are able to do together! I have had my heart broken when I lose one of my dear friends to old age... No, not a sales pitch at all, but if you know me, you will find all of this information to be true! You will also find that I am always willing to help some out..without compensation! I have done this many times and will continue to do so!
Again, I just want all of this craziness to end.
Do I make a living or money from my puppies? Absolutely not! I have a good job and between my fiance and I, we are comfortable. Do I show/train/work my dogs? Absolutely and I love it! My dogs are my passion and I love what we are able to do together! I have had my heart broken when I lose one of my dear friends to old age... No, not a sales pitch at all, but if you know me, you will find all of this information to be true! You will also find that I am always willing to help some out..without compensation! I have done this many times and will continue to do so!
Again, I just want all of this craziness to end.
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