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live4schutzhund

by live4schutzhund on 12 August 2013 - 20:08

HEY! I am entitled to be a Professional Looky-loo about once every couple years. HA!

by Blitzen on 12 August 2013 - 20:08

Pirate's Lair said:

We have sold pups for as much as $2,500 and as little as $400, the one thing
All of these pups have in common is that we have raised them with the best care and foundation work possible. Our price depends on many factors, which is no one's business but ours. Don't like the price......keep walking " these are not the Droids your looking for".

Amen!!! Emphasis on "Our price depends on many factors, which is no one's business but ours."

Pirates Lair

by Pirates Lair on 12 August 2013 - 21:08

live4schutzhund - Thumbs UpThumbs Up


Thanks Blitzen


Kim

by Blitzen on 12 August 2013 - 21:08

Teeth Smile

Pirates Lair

by Pirates Lair on 12 August 2013 - 21:08

Read the post by- live4schutzhund

Very informative


http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/forum.read?mnr=677167-adelhaus-gsd-screwing-people-not-giving-akc-papers&pagen=5#686033

Kim

vonissk

by vonissk on 12 August 2013 - 22:08

Kim Thumbs Up very good post.................I am breeding my girl the end of October or so and I have 2 people who have waited a year. One is a working home with a retired K9 officer and the other is an OB home. I am keeping one back and I am donating one to Cops4Dogs........then I have 2 people who are waiting to see what we have. One of those people has talked to me for almost a year and the other about 4 months. Both of them would be working homes.........one a service dog--FOR REAL--and the other a bedbug detection dog............and she is open to a rescue dog cause we talked about it..............anyone who has a young dog that might work for her--please contact me.................
Usually I sell for an even price also. But then like Kim, I have done more and I have done less. It just depends on the situation................Another thing I wanted to comment on--that a puppy you keep back is a loss..............IMO that's so not true. OK you think about just the stud fee by itself and if it is a nice puppy, could you buy that puppy for that amount of money? And donating dogs--it is first of all for the dog--it's a pretty much done deal that they are going to work thedog--I wouldn't send them something that I felt like wouldn't work out..........it's damn good advertisement and free..........not to make a cazillion bucks but to build up your rep...............and I want to be known as someone who definately cares about my dogs------------and did the best I could do by the breed...............


Pirates Lair

by Pirates Lair on 12 August 2013 - 22:08

Amen vonissk  Shades Smile


Kim

vonissk

by vonissk on 12 August 2013 - 22:08

One more thing I wanted to add about this puppy loss thing. The question I asked was could you buy a puppy for the stud fee--if it is nice DUH of course it is nice or you wouldn't want to keep it back..................and where else are you going to get a pup that is bred to your exact specs? At least when you own and KNOW one dog out of the equation and you are breeding for compatability then you have an idea what you are going to get...........buying an outside puppy unless you personally know the parents, is where the crapshoot comes in. Just my thoughts.................

by troopscott on 13 August 2013 - 00:08

If you read my post I said the puppy Is a loss until after it is bred and it is. If something happens to it were it can not be bred it is a loss plain and simple. Now if you want to believe every puppy kept back chases butterflies and unicorns in a meadow until they have a litter that is fine but it is not reality. Shit happens. Until the dog is bred delivers and pups are sold it is a loss from the money it could have been sold, to the food and training, to a stud fee paid to breed it all is a  loss until those pups are sold and delivered. 

by workingdogz on 13 August 2013 - 09:08

Troopscott, 
Following your logic of a puppy being a 'loss' to the breeder prior to said puppy
being able to produce live offspring, what is it called when a buyer purchases a 
puppy, raises, trains, does hips/elbows, titles, koers etc, but never breeds the dog?
What about the buyer who raises/trains etc, then goes to do hips/elbows and they
are bad? Or missing teeth, incorrect bite etc? Does the buyer get compensated for
the time & money put in to raising the pup? As soon as return of 'investment' is 
expected or required by one to keep a dog, the goals of breeding are purely profit
driven and nothing more. This is why we deal with breeders who have been at this
for many years, who work for a living and don't rely on dogs to pay their bills or
supplement a large portion of their income. These types of breeders generally
have no problem biting the bullet and 'taking a loss' on a pup they have kept back
if it doesn't pan out, they breed to keep something back for themselves to move 
forward with etc. Not to pay their cable bill Wink Smile 

For the record, I have no problem with a breeding charging for puppies, but can we 
please just drop the whole sob story of 'waaah! I put XX amount of $ into this dog'?
Sitasmom, do you remember when you bred your untitled dogs to 'see if they could 
even produce and raise a litter' before 'investing the time and money into titling them'?
Did you give those pups away since you really didn't have anything in to them? Likely
not I bet. Some of the creative math you guys come up with as breakdowns for actually
bringing a litter to fruition is hilarious. You all must have some really good accountants,
because I am just certain while you are charging $1500+ for pups, you are of course 
reporting that income to Uncle Sam right? Maybe some of you professionals on here
could fill us silly know nothings in on how the tax breakdown works with this? I'd be 
really intersted to know. Shades Smile





 


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