Strongid Paste wormer - Page 2

Awwwwe Rik, you're such a sweetheart.  Thanks for your comment. 

Barb, I agree with you 100%.  I never could understand why all the other animal wormers were not available and sold as dog wormers. Just never made sense to me.  

Thanks for all the experiences shared here.  Its alittle educational for everyone.  

Companies have many different formulations and combinations ... it is called MARKETING

Panacur c 22% granule 3x2 gram packages ( roughly 1.4 g active ) cost $12.99 or $8 to $9 per gram active

fenbendazole for cattle 100 mg/ml sc (15 ml = 1.5 g actice) $1.75  (roughly 11-12 cents per ml)  comes in 1000 ml bottle for $110-$120 for $1.10-$1.20 per gram active

the same ai costs 8 times more in dogs than cows

for one dog maybe not worth the hassle but for 20 dogs a necessity .. worm 20 at $12.99 =$260 or worm 20 for $2 (including chicken livers as carrier) for $40 .. buy your dogs better food with the savings

What does better food have to do with worming your dog? I feed raw but my dogs can still get heartworms. Kibble kills these days so I'm confused by your comment.

Barb

I suppose better food has nothing to do with worming your dogs??  However for people like myself with multiple dogs the cost of worming your dogs or giving heartworm treatments is very costly using small animal products such as Panacur C or one of the invermectin based dog heartworm products.  By using large animal formulated products with the exact same ai I can save $1000 and probably much more per year on flea, worming and heartworm treatment costs.  Since I don't sell my dogs as puppies but rather as 6-12 months old the costs of food and medications is significant.  The savings that I gain from formulating my own product from large animal formulations is used to buy my dogs better food ( I feed mostly human grade meat).  The better quality food in my experience results in much healthier and happier dogs with deep chests and a more athletic physique.  That is why I go to the trouble of making lower cost products to replace veterinarian label dog health products which cost 10X as much as my treatments.  I have seen no bad effects from using self formulated product in fact knowledge of the ai ingredients leads to better safety because I read and know all of the possible problems with the products.  To the best of my knowledge it is perfectly legal to use a product labeled for use in cows or horses with a different formulation in another veterinarian animal.  You can't sell reformualted product, it is only for personal use with your own animals.  I might add that I worked in the pesticide and agricultural research field for 30 years so perhaps I am more comfortable with formulation conversion and the weighing and measuring aspects of pesticide formulations than many people.  It is not rocket science but correct math and correct measuring is a necessity.

Strongid liquid is 0.1ml/kg for K9's and 0.4ml/kg for cats.

It really is a shame that the vets charge so much money. I understand they went to school for years and have to pay for that, but my God, they really make it impossible for people to get their pets spayed and neutered.
Just for a person to bring a pup in for shots is at least $50. Considering to do it yourself is about $5.
And to buy tapeworm pillspills for your average size dog is $35-$40. I buy the Zimmectin Gold and can do all my dogs for $12 .
Of course the vets and makers of some of these products tell you not to use them.
There is a Beagle Unlimited I think it is called is an excellent source of parasite control.
I know the Zimmectin Gold is safe. I shot the entire tube down my dogs throat once when the little weight lock, did not lock. (I now put it on my finger).

I worm my dogs every month. They are out and about in the woods and horse pasture.
New York is not prone to heartworm, but the amount of ivermectin I give as a basic worm control, let's me not have to worry about that at all. The Zimmectin has worked well for my dogs for many years. I will stick with it and would highly reccomend it to thosee with multiple dogs

Kitkat, I used ZMGold once. That darn little lock that didn't lock for you did the same thing to me. I was giving it to my 16 mo old Australian Cattle dog. Couple hours later I noticed she was disorientated, drooling, and lost some use of her rear limbs. Her eyes were dilated and she had a "the lights are on, but no one is home" look. She did get enough to worm a 800lb horse.  She did throw-up about 20 minutes after I gave her the paste. Thank God she did.  She did recover completely within 36 hours.  Needless to say I am alittle nervous about giving it to her again, that is why I was considering the Strongid paste.

Hutchins- that is what happened to my dogs when I used the qwest horse wormer. I seriously thought all of them was going to die.
I dumped charcoal for my fish filters down their throats.
I seriously think if I did not have the charcoal, they would have died.
My Shepherd that got the entire tube of the Gold, had no reaction.
I won't use any other wormer. Although my sister used the Strongid and liked it.

Maybe that is why Quest is marketed and sold as a HORSE dewormer. Jeeze people, have some common sense here. And if you cannot afford a vet and their costs, don't have a dog. Do a bit of researching into how much it costs to have a pet. Is this not what responsible people do?

Darka-whatever....
I got better things to do with my money than give it to the vet . I learned a lesson.
And really, how about a little education, why don't you tell me how much it costs to own a pet .