Trainer nearly Killed my dog - Page 8

First of all you guys/gals are geez a a bit....abrassive? LOL IF what this person is acussing the trainer of doing, which I too have reasonable doubt happend as it was stated; my first question is Why on god's green earth would you accept anyone to hold your dog hostage??? Let someone tell me they are keeping my GSD in another state and I'm afraid of not getting him back...I would have turned that trainers whole house, whole life UPSIDE down and been on his doorstep demanding my dog. He would have wished it were only the police at his door. BUT IF it happend the way the individual stated then this isn't something that should be taken at all lightly regardless of who knows him to love animals. As for sending the dog out for training...there is absolutely nothing wrong with having someone else train or polish the dog for you. Some people don't have the countless hours to devote but are willing to committ to further the dogs training. Other's don't have the knowledge-which by the way shouldn't mean that if you don't know how to train you shouldn't own a GSD. A dog that is trained by some hoopy so called trainer that has no experience in what they are doing can do much more damage to the dog than if it had no training at all. And let's face it who wants to own ANY dog that isn't well mannered. It's kinda like going to a doctor for let's say a heart problem...would you goto a proctologist to treat you??? No, you wouldn't. So therefore you have a "specialty dog" that also requires a "specialist"...you just do your research and get yourself the best.

I have met this man - Jerry Hicklin - and I never found any substantiting proof in any canine sports events where he has handled or finished any dog in any event even though he claims to have. In my experience with Mr Hicklin he promises a lot yet delivers little. But always has lots of plausible excuses for why he did not deliver as promised. He has numerous references from people he has trained dogs for and with along with extensive well known contacts he presents as close friends or aquaintences in the dog world. But these well known aquaintences and friends do not utilze or take advantage of his expertize or skills ANY venue that he presents in his resume.

Good luck with your dog, Ddtown. For what it's worth, I don't think there is one thing wrong with having a professional train your dog for schutzhund. I'm so sorry for what you have been through & thanks for the "heads up" for the rest of us. Please let us know how the dog is doing now.

@ Black sable, How's that dog doing you got from vombanach ?? Do you have a website, is he being bred at all ?

I know Jerry,and I know this situation is was a let down for the and the owner. Mr Hicklen has been in constant touch with MR. Soles since this ordeal. It was one of those situations of who is wrong? Who knows,but the dog had RMSP that caused his kidney to shut down,and he was put down. The dog had bitten by a tick somewhere at one time. Jerry has informed me about Cheryl Little just moments ago. He had several people call him about this post. My Hicklen has had several clubs in a 10 year period and I have trained with him for 8 of those years. He has never touted anything that he could not back up. Chris Malloy TX DPS Officer IT Tecaher

Just to clear the air, and defend myself which I have have never had a problem doing so. I wanted to clear the air some,per say. This person havedog1 is Cheryl Little who had to make a name on Dec 15th to Post the above.She ,prior to comenting had a name on this site {stormhasit,but opted to make a new name and comment? Also I shall clarify that I have EVERY email she has sent me in the past 9 months! As well she is the caliber of person that I would NEVER take anywhere with me in the GSD world. She drinks too much, as well does drugs, and ANYONE that knows me ,knows that I DO NOT let drugs near me, I hate them,period! http://profiles.yahoo.com/havedog1 She hides and I never have.What she states is very untrue. I have competed in 2 years in several types of training,but manily on a local basis. I have shwown my dogs in Conformation as well,and have been to many shows with some TOP people,but also learned that "Politics" play such a HUGE role in this all. I have MANY references,here,and in the USA,as well the place she talked about us training at ,that man knows for FACT I have backed up anything I ever stated,but end of story there. She always TALKED about doing something with her dog "Ninja". As wel se may not realize that many people on this site I have met in person,or met through places I worked for,or trained with. She also made some refernces that I said I did not represent the dogs that are one of my old sites. Korena,I owned,and Ms Little must be a putz,and simply because David Jones{a Sheriff} that trained with us, has and owns the dog,but because I GAVE her to him. End of story!! Ulstar,MS Little why dont you email Chris Malloy and ask about that! LOL Quida,As Tom King, and funny I have video of me with her,and they ALL have seen her ,Ms Little. The litter for sale on there,well ,uh, Cheryl, THose Are TOMS DOGS! I helped him sell MANY,MANY,of his pups,and older dogs. Funny thing is those pups that I did not represent ,I sent to Nevada? ALL of the dogs on that page were IMPORTED and SOLD by ,me, and Jeanna Rosen of International K9,see: http://pawzitive.com/images/viewphoto2.jpg She would come to our training sessions on Sunday,but not always was there,and hated waking so early. There were many days that I worked upwards of 12 dogs or more for the owners,but almost ALL of them were there for the WRONG reasons. They wanted PPD's and I DO NOT train those with the State License. I tried to keep everything on a sport type training,but all you ever heard was {I want to step it up a Notch} and they ALL had no interest in competing in any form. Cheryl Little wanted Ninja worked more,but NEVER Once took the time,or devotion to appear on any other day that we did not train as a club. When titling,working a dog you HAVE to gve and take, but she never could,or did.

If you asked Cheryl Little about anything pertaining to SchH dogs,training,WGSL dogs,or even bloodlines she would not know the first answer. Cheryl Little sure came out and said in front of MANY that I was the only one to ever get that kind of response from her dog Scout. Previously he had been worked 3 tmes by Matt. When I began training with "Tom King" of Von Kinghaus Geman Shepherds we became friends and both enjoyed working with one another{4 years prior to MS Little, ever coming onto the scene} but then again she would of never known him if it were not for I. Even the breed of do that she has now ,she never knew existd till I educated her about them. I have worked many of them! She knows nothing about raising litters, but yet her site she acts like a pro breeder! Shes never done anything with Dogs till maybe 7 weeks ago. Now that she has ONE Novice agility rating on her dog , she is a trainer! As for myself I have NEVER had an interest in AKC Agility,muchless anything that the AKC does,lol. I could go on,and on about that,but will not. I was living,working on the site of Von Kinghaus Kennels and I left due to my health,and other living factors that made my health worse. During the duration of my friendship with {Tom King}of Von Kinghaus http://vonkinghaus.com,I built his site.Same goes for {Cheryl Little},hers was http://stormhasit.com, and if you search for who filed for them youll see who did so. Now Mr King. has a ,Net, as well Cheryl Litte to, {Same URL's,but,.Net. Cheryl NEVER paid me for my work, or registering her site,then I shut it down. During my tenure at Kingahus I took many pictures and would send them out to Cheryl Little,but I never said she could post the on any Commercial site. She did so, and even sent to another Commercial site for posting{vonkinghaus.net}under the training setion. I know this began with James Soles and his dog,but as I,and others have stated, I have BEEN in CONSTANT touch with James Soles since that day, and have nearly rectified the entire ordeal by replacing the dog. The dog wa sput to sleep recently, and that was very saddening for me, as well his family. he dog came to me for training,but was weak in his drive,and when James wanted him back I said let me finish his training,but Soles did not want to finish anything. Upon the return of the dog it had RMSP from a Tick bite that resulted in his Kidneys shutting down. I have done all that I can to rectify this ordeal now. It has been a hard two years for the Soles family,and me because Health issues,but that has never changed the fact I am man nough to defend myself,and stand proud of whom I am. THe main reason Cheryl Little ever went overboard and began talking bad is because took her off of my Myspace page as a friend,but why? I told her about something that was Personal to me and no one elses business,and I wanted nothing else to do with her. Upon that, and since she has decided to be super Autonomous and make her OWN personal Assumptions about me. Facts are maybe I should of charged her for everytime I WORKED all of her 3 dogs,but I never did. I challange her now. To email me and ask for my references. I will not post them on this page,or personal info! Cheryl seems to think I had a Vendetta against her. I did not then, but maybe do now? Jerry Hicklen