RIP K9 Jag - Page 6

Beetree, the tread is about a k9 left in a hot car. In S C if a dog is left in a vehicle when the temp reaches a certain point( I'm not sure, but I think 85), a passerby is allowed to break a window to extract the dog, or call 911. Same thing, I think for a kid left unattended.plus, if you leave a dog in a hot car, you get arrested in SC. Electronic alarms need to be responded to, if the person is so negligent, they are going to shut the alarm off. Probably. Btw, it isn't me leaving my dog in a hot vehicle. I hauled my sled dogs and fox terriers before them, all over the US and into Canada performing with them and it was during all time of year; summer when it was over a hundred degrees and winter driving to Montana in sixty five below zero wind chill and NEVER EVER lost or injured an animal , dogs or horses or Brahman bull, in thirty years. So, if I can maintain safety of my animals while on the road with them for weeks and months at a time without incident, then there is no excuse for any one to fuck up and injure or kill an animal because they are distracted or self-centered or whatever they choose for an excuse.

That's the thing Joanro, I just don't think the "excuse" label is correct, and you ascribe all sorts of negative traits onto an unknown person, who is probably a real decent person if you'd met them at the Bar-B-Que the day before the event happened. And, if you read the Pulitzer prize article, when these events do get prosecuted, the jury doesn't convict, and the reason is, it was an accident that could happen to anybody.

I also acknowledge there isn't much worse of a fate to imagine on a otherwise decent, human being who becomes responsible for an unintentional, tortorous, death. I shouldn't matter if it is a K9 officer, or a defenseless child. What exactly will locking them accomplish? I see no benefits, actually, especially when you add in the cost of incarceration.

People are right to react to the horror, it makes us find out why and search for ways to do better. 

Well, what would you call it, Bee? There is No acceptable excuse and if people are that unconscious, they should not even be behind the wheel. I don't think SC incarcerates, but a hefty fine. People need to take responsibility and not cry that they "forgot", that's lame. Doesn't matter what they do for a living. Lots of professionals are too self-centered to pay attention...look what Romney did with his dog.

That's the misconception, it is NOT because they are as you say, "too self-centered to pay attention."... It turns out that isn't what happens in these instances, when it gets broken down. I even understand how everyone can be indignant as all get out, but the poor moral character attributed, just isn't the answer to "Why or How could this happen?" If that is false then... it is an ACCIDENT. Not an excuse. And it just doesn't have a happy ending.

Whatever, Beetree. You can excuse them if you like, but I think it's inexcusable.

It is highly surprising, as  k9 officers here in ABQ and Santa Fe leave their cars running and its hotter in Tucson AZ.   He must have been majorly worried of the consequences to not have called DPS to go get the dog out thinking he could beat the clock.   One thing though, I know he must feel horrific.  I know most of the working dogs live with them nowadays and just imagine to do this must have been mind boggling to him how stupid that was.  I couldn't forgive myself doing that.  

I have one of my dogs who lives with her loving family in Tucson.  her owner likes to take her to Trader Joe and have her wait in the car.  Not so long ago one of the TJ customers called the cops on her and they were waiting for her at her car.  Sure the windows were rolled down but she had to appear in court.  So i know the AZ is tough on people.  I have radded out several people here in Santa Fe already this summer.  One of them I told to their face it was too hot to leave the dog in the car and they didn't even say anything and walked off.  WRONG move...  I got the store clerck involved immediately he looked at his watch said he'd give them 10 minutes as they were parked under a shade tree, which is why the dips thought it be ok.  when i got back they'd left. 

Here is an example of the secure steel screen build into the back of both cars as I always take one or two of my dogs. Including a water bucket.   This way I keep the back lift gate open, park it into the breeze or in the shade.  Its not even do-able during the hottest part of the or in June here in santa fe at 7000 feet, so in the AZ Sonoran Desert of Tucson, you have to keep your car running if  your dog is inside as its simply too hot.  I used to live in PHX and left because of the paralyzing heat.  

Here you go: http://www.rayallen.com/product/f_series_k-9_deployment_and_heat_alert_systems/K-9_Transport