by GermanShepherd<3 on 18 December 2010 - 20:12
by Gustav on 18 December 2010 - 21:12
by GermanShepherd<3 on 19 December 2010 - 01:12
and no its not a setup..I am a teen okay..I am trying to learn this stuff. The GSD has been my passion for the longest time..and when the time comes and I will be ready I want to understand exactly what the breeder is talking about. Like Hans, he was talking in a thread once about those two pups (the one he sold to the crazy woman), and was talking about how they were bred, and I really wanted to understand exactly what that meant..I looked online for other things to try and understand.
All the the things I learned about breeding was from breeders themselves who took the time to talk to me..they told me the most important part of breeding..and I know I may only be 16, but the German Shepherd has been everything to me all my life..I was able to foster one, and it was the greatest experience. Being reputable breeders, to me is what I said in that thread, because when I look into my pup one day that is what I want.
So in short, no I am not a breeder, or someone trying to set up someone..this is just for my personal knowledge. I found some of my answer on a website, that kinda helped..but really I just want to learn, if you wanna answer or someone else does I would be more than happy to hear what you guys have to say!
And sorry if I came across as trying to setup something or stir up trouble. I hope this cleared it. Have a great night!
by Gustav on 19 December 2010 - 03:12
by darylehret on 19 December 2010 - 03:12
I would advise that; to help minimize risk, you can linebreed on particular dogs that have been successfuly linebred upon before. In west-workingline breeding, lots of linebreeding on Fero, Troll and Yoschy has already been conducted, and not at a lot of terrible expense. Same with the Ingo, Held and Bero bloodlines of the czech dogs.
Those are the two that I have concentrated my linebreeding interest in, but the point is, neither are completely uncharted territory. I will not be the first, and were I to push the evelope, it would be in more recent generations of the same lines (i.e., a "2-3" on Bero's grandson, Faro Policia), or in combination with different linebreeding of weaker strength (further back, but of an unrelated line, like a 4-4 Cordon An Sat). Both Faro and Cordon have established themselves successfully in previous linebreeding already. Some of the "guesswork" will have been eliminated by those who have gone before and helped pave the way.
Selection of the animal's phenotype is and always will have the greater impact than looking at pedigree alone. Even same-siblings linebred 4,3-4,4 on so-and-so have the potential to be very different from each other in outward appearance and general behavior.
by ziegenfarm on 19 December 2010 - 06:12
as i said, these are general statements and pertain to livestock as well as smaller animals.
by duke1965 on 19 December 2010 - 17:12
the only way to keep unrelated bloodlines available is in/linebreeding
to pick up wanted traits in a inbred bloodline you need to outcross
like yin and yang
by Jeff Oehlsen on 19 December 2010 - 18:12
by sable59 on 19 December 2010 - 18:12
by Rik on 19 December 2010 - 22:12
Jeff said it very well. You just have to do it, evaluate, recognize the good and bad and build on that in the next generation. after 3 or 4 generations, you'll have a pretty good idea of what you are dealing with in your dogs.
I read all the books, attended the seminars, soaked in the wisdom of those I considered successful and this is what I learned. There is no "secret" to breeding. Breed a very good female to a very good male and maybe you get a very good puppy. Did not happen often for me.
I think back now on how brilliant I thought these breeders who produced the dogs I idolized. With a little age, I realized if it was really some secret knowledge or formula they had, then they would be producing the super stars in every litter, instead of once or twice in a lifetime.
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