Chinese Dogs in German Sieger Show - Page 3

"We still can't even solve our own problems"

when a non german country buys a top dog like sometimes here in Brazil or in Argentina or int he US the breeder usually is trying to improve the breeding. the dog starts to be heavly used in reproducton caminga out from shows thats what happens here. I HAVE BEEN in China and they really love GSD but remember allways that at most is a non democratic country

There are many top quality dogs and top placing dogs owned by them, eg. VA2 Chakira vom Osterbergaer-Land. Even Zamp is not owned as it appears on the paper. It would be stupid to show the dogs under the new owners name, it is all about politics and how to get the top ratings at the Sieger Show. Reading the show results along will not give you any insights.

Well said Preston. For some reason we in the USA believe that we know best about everything. Anyone with a different life style or culture other than ours is viewed as backwards. We do not live on this planet by ouerselves and have no right to force our will upon others. The ignorance that has been stated by some in the previous posts is very telling. The lack of education on socio-economic forces that perpetuates stereo typing is disturbing. There is no way that a man can tell a woman that they know what it is like to be pregnant and bear a child. Quick economic lesson. There is a natural rate of unemployment that ranges from 4 to 6 percent. Below 4 percent you have an increase in inflation. Above 6 percent inflation falls. Joseph Stiglitz, Journal of Economic Perspectives. Of cource there are other factors. But his maybe be too deep for the ingnorant of mind and circumstance. Kyle

I just want to say that not all the Chinese eat dogs,only the Korean nationality in China eat dogs.China is a country of 56 different nations just like the USA which consist of more than 100 nations.Different nations have different babits or traditional custom.We must show our respect and understand to them,just like the Muslims do when they saw we eating pork. There are very big kennels that covering 700,000 or more square feet and owning two or three hundred of dogs in China. There are very skillful breeders as well. After years of study they, the Chinese have collected many experiences and established their own theory in breeding dogs. Now most of the Chinese GSD overs would like to join in the civil competitions,which held about 10 times a year in different provinces including the once-a year China Sieger Show.Actually,there are also several thousand of dogs in the Sieger Show.It is also a grand ceremony for the GSDs in China. Just be patient and give the Chinese more time to get ready.

Come on, this is not about the way the wealthy in China care for their dogs. It's about the lack of animal rights in that country. A country where dogs are literally snatched from their owners and beat to death before their eyes as their way of preventing the spread of rabies. Children seeing their pets killed in the streets. A country where dogs are skinned alive for their pelts. That is all documented on video by groups other than the lunatic fringe like PETA. It is not a fairy tale as so many would have you believe. Take time to get all the facts. Google "dogs for fur". The elite in that country may enjoy the freedom of not having their dogs taken from them and killed. Do they live baracaded behind razor wire? I assume those who export dogs to them are positive it could never happen. What about those who buy dogs from them? Are they immune as well? Where are the dogs going that are being bred in China? I'm sure that some in Germany and elsewhere would prefer to sell a fading Va to China rather than to a country like the US. Better to put it where it can't be used to it's full potential rather than selling it to someone who would be able to promote the progeny and maybe even generate a little competition. I wouldn't sell a dog to a number of people in my own family either. Some living in the US, some living elsewhere. They do not have the good sense to provide a dog a safe place to live free from danger. And by the way, not many members of my family are WASPS either, so let's not put that spin on this thread again. Stick to the facts, are dogs sold to China really going to an evironment where they will be safe? Will their owners be able to protect them in the event of another mass slaughter and are you sure that their offsping won't end up on the collar of a coat? If you don't know that for certain, then how can you sell a dog there in good conscience? If you are convinced these dogs are as safe there as they would be anywhere else, then who could argue with your decision? I don't know how many have been in dogs for 35, 40 years, but those of you who have been will probably remember when another country wanted to get into the dog game by buying a lot of different breeds from the US. Many ended up in puppymills and mistreated and some of the breeders went there and brought their dogs home. Sometimes its - seller beware and do your homework before exporting a dog to a stranger in a far away land.

>>Reply I find it funny how china has all the money in the world to buy theses expensive VA dogs but can’t manage to control the rapid rabies in its county... Faulty logic: a very small percentage of individual Chinese CITIZENS may have enough disposable income to drop six figures on a VA stud, but that has absolutely nothing to do with what the GOVERNMENT can't or won't or shouldn't do regarding the control of rabies rabies. >>Come on, this is not about the way the wealthy in China care for their dogs. Actually, to the extent that anyone is yelling "Don't sell your dogs to China!" it is EXACTLY about that, since it's not the rice farmers and factory workers who are importing expensive dogs. >>It's about the lack of animal rights in that country. As an American I wouldn't want to go too too far down that particular road - we live in a country where the guy who tortured the kitten in Ohio got a whopping 90 days in the clink and where the USDA and local animal control authorities are so grossly underfunded that puppy mills are seldom shut down unless a private party makes a huge stink. >>A country where dogs are literally snatched from their owners and beat to death before their eyes as their way of preventing the spread of rabies. No one is defending the government's response to this problem. In fact, the real issue here is why, in a semi-totalitarian state where even the amount of children people can have is heavily regulated, did the government authorities ever permit the rabies-in-dogs problem to escalate to the point where dozens of people die every year? >>The elite in that country may enjoy the freedom of not having their dogs taken from them and killed. Do they live baracaded behind razor wire? They don't need to, because they have clout. So any dumbass police sergeant whose squad entered their neighborhood and snatched up their dogs and walloped them to death would soon find himself fighting the Muslim rebels in western Xinkiang province armed with a slingshot and a bag of rocks.