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by afwark15 on 08 January 2010 - 22:01

I realize, and I am very familiar with the differences between working line GSD and show line GSD, but when people talk about different lines of the working line German Shepherd what does that mean? I know that each is their own 'type', I get that, but how can you tell the difference and what are the pros and cons of each type.
More specifically, what are the major differences between an East German and a West German Shepherd? Or the difference between a Czeck and a German bred dog?
I would like to see how many people like one type over another, and why?
And how can you tell the difference in type when looking at a dog or a dog's pedigree?

I was just curious and would appreciate any comments anyone would like to put forward!

Amanda   ^..^

by yoshy on 09 January 2010 - 00:01

this is an age long arguement/debate.

there are many threads debating the points of this topic if you read thru.

You have a family lineage. Well a dog does as well. You have many lines. There are more than one line as a lot refer to czech lines. there are multiple. I personally own a ddr/czech line cross. My next will be pure czech hopefully full zPS lines. Reason being is i like sound health and temperament dogs that are raw or handler hard with natural instinct and poise of a apidemy of the shepherd as well as nice balanced drives. In my personal opinion you cant top the guys from the zPS farm as they are famous for the dogs they produce steadily and the work there dogs have to complete on a daily basis.

west german, ddr, czech, slovakian,swedish,UK, American, etc..... there are to many to list and debate in one post. as there are thousands of posts on this forum about this topic and hasnt covered it all yet.


by afwark15 on 09 January 2010 - 00:01

oh ok, I figured it was a personal preference thing but one question: I have heard of DDR lines, but what exactly does that mean or refer to? Does that refer to East German working?

I was just curious in a general outlook how each line performs differently from others. Any main points which make each one different.

Amanda ^..^

by yoshy on 09 January 2010 - 02:01

Deutsche Demokratische Republik

it is an area in which a lineage can be traced. there are distinct difference with east and west german lines since they were seperated for so many years. Also it is beleived a lot of DDR dogs were mixed with czech lines post wwII because of the shortage of good working military dogs. Honestly there is a ton of research that you would need to do on history and history of the breed to start understand it as most of what you get here is opinion with interpretations of facts.

by k9ulf on 09 January 2010 - 15:01

"Vanesko vom Salztalblick" a DDR Dog? Perhaps I misunderstand yoshy. I agree he looks like a DDR dog type(apart from the colour), but he is not a pure DDR dog at all. All sorts of dogs in his lines, even Austrian( "von der Grundschnelligkeit).There might be a bit east German blood in it, gonna check it.  Though "Salztalblick" is a top kennel in western Germany and Vanesko is a stunning looking dog.
All the best

by yoshy on 09 January 2010 - 17:01

K-9 ulf,

"You are right I apologize for the mistake in dogs". Yeah i wouldnt mind knowing some facts on him he is a good looking dog. your research would be appreciated. let me knwo what all you find.


afwark15 this site has many great ddr dogs on it so you can see them.


by afwark15 on 09 January 2010 - 22:01


what do you mean when you say "looks like a DDR type dog"
This is part of the reason I posted this topic....what are the classic characteristics of DDR dogs?

This is the link to my dog's pedigree, It goes back to Lord vom Gleisredeieck, who was a DDR dog.


I guess I was wondering the differences so I could see where my dog's character comes into play

Amanda ^..^

by Kaffirdog on 10 January 2010 - 09:01

Hi Amanda

Looks like we are "in-laws".  One of my girls is your dogs half auntie through Evita v Champ


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by afwark15 on 10 January 2010 - 16:01

Very cool!!! Glad I found some "family" on here!

How do you like your girl? Uschi is very handler focus and works very well. Has a bit of a confidence issue but is learning to work through that.
Did you get her directly through the vom andi kennel?
Since I have a daughter out vom andi parents I was thinking about importing a puppy directly from them, but I have not yet decided.

Amanda ^..^

by k9ulf on 10 January 2010 - 17:01

Hi afwark15,
I sourced Dunja in Germany, she was owned by Frank Schawe owner of the kennels "vom Felsenschloss"
I know "Andi" in person,if you need any help, let me know.
All the best

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