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GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 23 March 2012 - 22:03

I agree with you but this is not a normal addiction. Now add in being famous and all the pressures to perform up to others standards and possibly your own enternal pressures to be that superstar every single day. It is tough for regular(not famous) people to kick addictions now imagine all of that 100 fold and I think we can all agree it would be hard to quit any addiction.

Look at Rush, did he hit rock bottom? Nope, but he says he quit. Believe it or not.


by beetree on 23 March 2012 - 22:03

It is just a sad tragedy, an accident. She had a caring family, if you listened to any of the interviews. 

GSD, 4 years and you still crave? There is no way anyone could ever get me to smoke another cigarette.  But I was lucky, getting pregnant somehow made it easy for me to quit. But once I did, and felt the physical cravings disappear, it really was a relief not to be a slave to the smokes.

The cocaine took its toll on her heart. I don't get why she was on muscle relaxers unless she had some kind of back problem. The marijuana could have made her sleepy, mixed up with the anti-depressants, xanax, I believe. Whitney said herself, she wasn't ready to quit. The only thing I know about intervention is from watching Dr. Phil and boy do they fight it.

Well, unless you are thinking that since her bodyguard left, and family took over "watching" her, they just did a lousy job of it?

Felloffher

by Felloffher on 24 March 2012 - 01:03

She died of neglect, by those who were supposed to have loved her.
So much for family and friends.

Moons.

Moons,

 This is exactly what's wrong with our society, too many people don't want to take responsibility for their choices or their actions. It's always someone elses fault, hell we should launch a class action law suit against her friends and family for their gross negligence causing her death. She made a choice to use drugs and suffered the consequences. Is neglect the cause of all drug addicts deaths or just the one's that are famous?

GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 24 March 2012 - 02:03

Felloffher,

I do believe if you have family or friends who use and are addicted and you do nothing for your loved one, then yes you are partially to blame--not for the addicition but for doing nothing, if on the other hand you tried and the person went ahead and continued using then no it is all on them.

If you had a family member with old-timers and you did nothing, isn't that neglect? Or do you expect the person to realize they are sick and go to the doctor on their own, after all it is their choice to do nothing? Addiction is a sickness folks, it is not a choice, most people don't start using thinking they will get addicted. No?

Felloffher

by Felloffher on 24 March 2012 - 03:03

 Alzheimer's isn't a disease caused directly by lifestyle choices, so I really don't see how you can compare it to drug addiction or how it is treated. But, I really don't see addiction as an illness either.
 
 I'm 35 years old and for as long as I can remember there has been an educational campaign warning us of the serious consequences of drug use. In any city you don't have to look far to see how drugs negatively impact people. I'm sure many people don't think they will get addicted, but it isn't a secret that risk is there.

 I'm a smoker that is well aware of the risks associated with smoking and was aware of these risks before I started. I made a personal choice to smoke and I would say I'm addicted. IMO it's not an illness, it's a dependency or a crutch. I've never attempted to quit, but the day is coming. I'm sure it will be tough, but it will only happen when I make the conscious decision to quit. I can't blame my family or friends for not helping me quit or the tobacco companies for suppling a product that kills, because in the end I made the choice.


GSD Admin (admin)

by GSD Admin on 24 March 2012 - 04:03

The war on drugs has and is a failure. After all America imprisons per capital the most amount of law breakers in the world. We are not even close to other countries. We imprison 500 or so per 100,000, while other countries imprison less than 100 per 100,000. It costs us about 45,000 a year to imprison one person and only costs about 10,000 a year to send a person to college. Our sad war on drugs is to keep the police state in place and scare the masses.   People are starting to realize that this war has been a huge waste of money and time.


You don't think the advertising, movies and the people around you played a role in your smoking? I do.

You didn't just pick up a pack of smokes and decide to try them out of the blue.

And yes for some people addiction is an illness and I don't think we can compare a legal drug to an illegal drug. After all smokes aren't even considered a drug.

I also believe that eventually alzheimers will be proven to be tied to the choices you made or better yet the amount of fats you ate. Notice the sharp rise in the last 20 or so years? I do.




ggturner

by ggturner on 24 March 2012 - 12:03

Good posts Ninja and Felloffher.  I think family and friends of WH did a lot to try to help her, but she choose to continue her drug use.  So, as I said, can't blame her family and friends.  

Alzheimer's, BTW, is on the rise due to multiple factors:  people are living longer (more common in older people), the baby boomers are getting older, testing is now done at earlier ages, diabetes and strokes (both of which could be due to diet choices) contribute to the development of the disease.  
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/healthcare/alzheimer-s-rise-people-live-longer/20120122 




yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 24 March 2012 - 19:03

 Referring back to many TOP STARS OR Entertainers, I think of one of the greatest musicians ever alive was IKE TURNER.

HE  could not move without his daily cocaine fix. THE musicians who played for him, and I know one of them very well, attested to the fact, they ALL used WITH IKE>

Many of the musicians that witnessed IKE TURNERS demize, quit using and left the music industry , because it has been well known , as I was told by this very accomplished musician, who helped, IKE get treatment, to no avail...that if you stay in the business, it is almost impossible to kick the habit.

IT is a part of the music business and HOLLYWOOD>>or not even HOLLYWOOD>>THE circuit you travel with all the Musicians and show business is DRUGS , DRUGS and more drugs...Started when they were all 14,yrs old..MOST OF THE  big users including ELVIS Presley< STARTED  at 14yrs old at the doors of Stax studio and on to the end of a lot of their lives at 30 \40 yrs of age.

IT WAS and still is , expected of you if you are one of that venue to continue and it is gonna be there until end of time.

IF they legalize it, some of the non stop selling and money making will stop and the cost to our State and Government and hospitals and institutions who have to cover the cost of these addicted people, will go down considerably.

Ike never did stop, even though a lot of his distant friends thought he had..HE, like WH, died with it in his blood infact of an overdose and in very poor health.

YR





 


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