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by SitasMom on 26 September 2011 - 19:09

yr give good advice........

did the same with one of mine 2 nights ago and she's been quite ever since.

 


by LynOD on 27 September 2011 - 01:09

Oh my Wacking crates and yelling and threatening.  How about retraining the crate and creating value for being in the crate.  Crate games make a dog very happy to be in their crate as you have established a history of reinforcement for it.  Susan Garrett has a DVD called crate games.  I have used this with my pup and she loves her crate. Sleeps in it at night with door open does not come out until I release her in the morning when I get up.  I think the positive route gets quick long lasting results. JMHO.

yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 27 September 2011 - 02:09

   No ONE SAID  to YELL and scream and Wacking crates.
   The poster said pup only does it at night , in middle of night. I assume the dog like crate.
    THIS is a bad behavioural problem.   DOGS are like kids. When they get it in head I want something at 3 am in the morning and can disrupt the whole house and you get up and fret over it..dog won. NOW we have to correct the bad behaviour.

  I assume the poster has no problem daytime in crate according to her posts.
   
  I said to take a  stick and hit the crate  with a command  a very stern ALPHA,  hard and loud is not  whacking and screaming or yelling.. 

    If I had said   tap and softly whisper   NINE    would the dog even look up   NO it would  not.
    
    Now if that is screaming I never knew that!
    I do not scream  hit or  yell at dogs!
   
     How in the world do you play   CRATE GAMES in the middle of the night?
   
    THIS person is not being ALPHA
  
     A  hard stern COMMAND is not screaming or yelling. It is with RAISED voice above normal talking voice.   

     THE reason kids donot mind human parents today is the parents are not ALPHA
   
      They let the KID be alpha

      YR

Jamille

by Jamille on 27 September 2011 - 03:09

It sounds like this one needs the lights to actually be left on .  Sometimes if they can't see anything then every little noise sets them off, because of their natural insecurity at this age.  Every dog/puppy has their own maturity levels.  If leaving the lights on works, then you could slowly phase to a night light or something. 

I would also agree with some of the other suggestions like :
-keeping the radio playing
-Femur bones to chew
-Stuffed toy to cuddle with

Good luck, let us know what works.

-


yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 27 September 2011 - 04:09



Dogs can die with choking toys in crate.

 NO toys no rawhide.

Dog choke on parts of stuffed animals
 
Most young pups chew

That is why you use a  raw knuckle bone or round raw bone.

no choke collars no toys.

no balls..anything can be chewed into pieces and get lodged in throat or esophogus and you are asleep.


YR

by LynOD on 27 September 2011 - 13:09

You don't play crate games in the middle of the night you actually train the behavior you want during sessions you can train at your convenience.  And no offense YR  dogs are not like kids they are dogs. It probably would only take a week to create value for the crate and have a happliy crated dog.  Just saying that I find as a behaviorist you get alot more mileage out of behavior strengthened through reinforcement than you do for behaviors taught through corrections.  Not that it can't be done that way it is just not my prefered metthod of training and I have found this out by using both methods, and the behaviors I have taught and strengthened through reinforcement hold up better than the ones I taught through use of corrections.

I would also suggest to the poster that the dog may require more exercise to get them tired.  A tired dog is a happy dog and every dog's energy needs are different.

Donnerstorm

by Donnerstorm on 27 September 2011 - 13:09

Lyn, we did not say whack the dog, and crate games aren't going to help much if you had read the Op the dog does just fine in the crate during the day.  When my pups whined in the crate I whacked the top of the crate, I didn't scream at the pup and nobody told the OP to scream at the pup there is a difference between screaming and being assertive, and my dogs all like their crates they will go in them on their own periodically to take a nap or if for some reason we forget to crate one when we go to bed, the door is not closed and the dog stays in the crate. In this case the dog is training the owner. I make noise you get up.  I don't know what kind of behavior you expect from your dogs but when I ask mine to do something or not do something I expect it to be followed without question. I do use positive reinforcement when training my dogs, I have NEVER had to use an E collar, etc, my dogs are very well behaved and slapping the top of the crate must not be too traumatic bc my dogs chose to be with me constantly even when not told. Next time you are going to bash the advice given maybe you should read the first post entirely.  BTW when dogs are teaching other dogs how to act I have yet to see one play a crate game with it,so what would make you assume it is horrible to the dog.  I don't have to yell at my dogs in the crate in the beginning during crate training I did the radio and the night light, however if you kept it up I slapped the top of the crate and in a firm voice said NINE! if it was during the day they received a reward when they laid quietly I let them out for a little bit and we played but I'm not playing at 2am, if my dogs who do like their crates are making racket in the crate now all it requires is me saying that will be enough thank you, or me just clearing my throat loud enough that they can hear it.  So slapping the crate obv works and has worked for more than one person that has posted.  Games are fine but I would prefer to not be outsmarted by my dog!

Donnerstorm

by Donnerstorm on 27 September 2011 - 13:09

One more thing Lyn I just read every word posted on this thread where in the world did you get that ANYBODY threatened the dog? Are you saying you NEVER correct your dog? If that's the case I can tell you who runs your house.  You can equivocate dogs to children they are not children but the same principals apply, if there is never a correction your child or dog are going to have no respect for you and they only have to listen if they feel like it, because nothing happens if it doesn't.  Do you use a pinch collar or tell your dog no well then you have used a correction.  At some point all the behaviorist will stop trying to tell the trainers how to do their job.  Only positive reinforcement does NOT work, that would be like you asking your child to clean their room every day for 3 weeks and not saying a word when they chose to ignore you and then giving them a snickers bar the one time they clean it.  It is people with those theories that decided every child that plays a little league game gets a trophy for just showing up, so there is no real reward for discipline, and excelling in anything. Life isn't a little league game neither is raising or training a dog you don't get a trophy for just showing up! 

by LynOD on 27 September 2011 - 13:09

Excuse me Donnerstorm I can read and I was not bashing anyone else's advice mearly expressing another way of doing things.  I was refering to the comment in your post "Don't make me come down there" as a threat and I am sorry I said whacking the crate when you clearly said smacking I apologize.

Donnerstorm says:
"When I have one I smack the top of the crate loudly and say nine in a very firm voice.  "

Frankly I don't care how you train your dogs, I was only suggesting a different opinion.  Which I believe everyone is entitled to.

by LynOD on 27 September 2011 - 14:09

 I can't say I have never used corrections, however I am reworking how I see and train my dogs and I find that by using reinforcement correctly I don't need corrections, because my dogs want to please me. Denying them access to reinforcement is much more effective than any correction I can give them.  They learn at a young age what choices earn them access to their favorite things.  Make the right choice and you earn access.    And you have no idea how my dogs behave so don't even go there.  My dogs can be off lead any where publicly with people and other dogs around and won't leave my side, my dogs live and breath for my attention. I am the keeper of the fun so to speak and my dogs respect me and want to be with me.

I would never dream of telling you how to train your dog I believe the poster asked for suggestions I offered mine.  






 


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