Healthy Dog food Supplements - Page 3

            I have been doing a lot of my own reading/ research with regard to kibble. I have come to the conclusion that there are NOT many very good kibbles to choose from....

            IMO it is misleading to people who have not done much of their own research on kibble to even suggest that Orijen is a poor quality food....I HATE the price..... but I honestly believe it is the best money can buy as far as kibbles are concerned.
 
         There are a few others good kibbles for those of us who have a more tight budget, but Orijen is my preference based on my research...The information is out there for everyone to become educated about kibble ingredients.. I know many people do not have the time to research, but I seem to have a bit more time these days....: )

           JMO.....Deanna...: )

Hi Guys,
Cool, my thread is still going with good info.

Some more info - Suzie Dog is a 48lb chow mix rescue. I was originally looking for a less expensive low calerie filler like the fruitables canned pumpkin.

MollyandJack - I do not want to cut her proportion down any further because she is only getting one cup (8oz) a day as it is. She is a very easy keeper. Right now the Fruitables is helping her feel more satisfied while she looses some weight.

Pharaoh  - thanks for the tip on Ark Naturals.

Couple more questions:

Jen -  what does RMB stand for (Raw Meat Bone?)
How much salmon oil and Vit E do you give?

Steve1 - Wow, $104 a bag for Senior, that sucks. I usually pay $75 and thought that was really high priced.  I have always been partial to herbal supplements the Hokamix looks very interesting. On the Hokamix web site they recommend feeding one 5g scoop per 10 lbs of dog weight but then state not to go over three scoops a day. Curious, how much do you feed?

What do you guys use for added enzymes?

Thanks,
C

 Yes, raw meaty bones.

I follow the directions on the Grizzly salmon oil (it's measured in pumps by weight) and I give big dogs 400 IU (she's big enough) and I give those really big dogs 600 ( a 400 and a 200) My little one gets 200IU a couple times per week. I used to give my old Chi 200IU every other day, but he was almost 7lbs and this one is only 2.7lbs....and I don't expect him to get bigger than 4-5lbs.  Any salmon oil you buy for dogs will tell you by weight how much to give. 

As to enzymes, for this particular dog, I'd do something like this www.thewholisticpet.com/index.cfm

You can even buy salmon oil on this site.

So are you saying pea fiber is not a filler; along with physillim??  Sorry they are both fillers and some breeds have serious allergy's to pea(s) one being Dalmations and I am sure others.  Best of luck  Nan

 You're going to take issue with the NINTH ingredient in a food w/almost exclusively meat ingredients in the first 4-5 ingredients? Besides, dietary fiber is not a horrible thing, and it does have a tiny bit of protein. Both of those ingredients are primarily intended to add fiber to a food with no grains; you have to add certain starches and/or fibers, partly just to make the kibble bind together. 

Good luck finding a food with no ingredient that any dog anywhere could ever be allergic to. You're grasping at straws here, IMO, Nan. 

Without a binder to make it stick together and form a pellet, there is no kibble.

Grain is the usual ingredient that forms the kibble.  Grain is undesireable now for various reasons.  There are many grain-free kibbles.  But, there has to be something to bind it.  There are various methods.

There are many that have potatoes, sweet potatoes, tapioca, peas and ???.  But, there has to be something if you want to stick a scoop into a bag of kibble and spill it into a dog bowl.

I feed Pharaoh 1 1/2 cups of Origen Regional Red 2-3 times a week.  Since I always must make everything complicated, no easy way around here, I soak it in warm water.  Then, I top it with defrosted Green tripe excalibur mix.  GreenTripe.com

Here are the ingredients for Origen Regional Red (binders highlighted in yellow)

INGREDIENTS
Fresh deboned wild boar*, fresh deboned lamb*, fresh beef liver*, fresh deboned pork*, lamb meal, peas, salmon meal, russet potato, herring meal, fresh whole eggs*, fresh deboned bison*, potato starch, fresh deboned salmon*, pacific whitefish meal, fresh deboned walleye*, salmon oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), sun-cured alfalfa, pea fiber, dried organic kelp, pumpkin, chicory root, carrots, spinach, turnip greens, apples, cranberries, blueberries, licorice root, angelica root, fenugreek, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, chamomile, dandelion, summer savory, rosemary, vitamin A, vitamin D3, vitamin E, niacin, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12, zinc proteinate, iron proteinate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, selenium yeast, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Enterococcus faecium.

Michele

Yes, Orijen is probably the top Kibble in my book,
Michele
You mention Orijen Red, a very good Kibble but pricey over here at 142 USA Dollars for a 30.5 bag, beyond the  reach of my pocket.
What price do you Guys pay in the States
Steve1

Steve
I live in California and I have seen the Orijen as low as $60 and as high as $90. These prices on USA prices and do not include our state sales tax.