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by Prager on 09 January 2011 - 13:01
I haved done it and I'd rather jump out of speeding express train then to do it again.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com
by RealBitee on 09 January 2011 - 23:01
Prager which dogs did you send here if i may ask? Also it is sad to know that people would not waste their time sending dogs here as there are really some great dogs here and we always need new lines for the gene pool.
by Prager on 10 January 2011 - 14:01
It's been a while. I would have to look into my records. Look I have nothing against sending dogs to Australia, but I do not think that you would want to pay me for my effort to accomplish that. As far as I remember it, it involved months of boarding, and upkeep of the dogs and large numbers of visits to the vet and bunch of tests which had to be done in certain sequence. Even so I was giving best possible rates the cost was still staggering. There may be and are better ways to do it now and if you want to known more e mail me or PM me.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com
by wrestleman on 10 January 2011 - 17:01
No its the same at least 6 months from time of first test until you can send them , once there they sit in quarantine.for a very long time. The Aussies are great folks but as I said the will have at minimum of $15,000 to $20, 000 in shipping and boarding cost here and there as well as all the blood test etc. This does not include the price of the dog. I know of no other way....its just un fair to them .....
by MAINLYMAX on 10 January 2011 - 20:01
Waleed.. the Aussies don't no what a Malinois is yet...
Look into sight or hearing impaired assistant reg.
White cane and a different pair of sun glasses. Not the ones
you use as a decoy.
It"s a German Shepherd mate!!! ...He my seeing eye dog.
Good luck.
Look into sight or hearing impaired assistant reg.
White cane and a different pair of sun glasses. Not the ones
you use as a decoy.
It"s a German Shepherd mate!!! ...He my seeing eye dog.
Good luck.
by Khayem on 10 January 2011 - 23:01
We imported Lilli vom Trompetersprung from Germany after purchasing her in 2007. In addition, just to make things harder for ourselves 
, we imported her in whelp.
If it were not for the outstanding help of our German friends, Manuela and Frank Borowski and Ludger Goke, we would never have gotten her here or had her mated to the dog that we chose.
Dogs imported into Australia from Germany (and many other European countries) have to have the rabies titre test and then remain in Germany for 5 months following passing that test. In the last 30 days before they are able to fly out, there are a series of tests that must be done in order, but it is all spelt out in the Import Permit and most vets know what is being asked for.
In the last 4 days there are some additional requirements, such as being wormed and flea-treated. Then when the dog is ready to fly, there is the involvement of the German Govt vet to approve the paperwork and to seal the dog into the crate it will fly in. The dog cannot leave that crate until Australian Quarantine remove it at the Quarantine station. That is why we pay so much extra to ensure that our dogs get a direct flight and spend as little time in the crate as possible. We also paid for a much larger crate than she really needed, to ensure that she had plenty of room to get up and move about. Increasing the size of the crate ended up costing us an extra AUD $4000 for the flight, as the dogs are charged as "cargo" to come here.
If all is OK once they reach the Quarantine Station, they spend 30 days in final Quarantine and then are released. In that time, we are able to visit them up to 6 times per week and as long as all of their tests are in order, they can be exercised 4 times per week. It is made more difficult because Sydney Quarantine is not open on the weekends, so you have to be able to take time off work so that you can see your dog. You can also pay for groomers and dog walkers to go in and attend to your dog if you cant get there.
The staff in Sydney Quarantine are very good and I do not think that the dogs suffer much by being there, they get into the new routine very quickly. We took in toys, beds and bones as well as the food that we wanted fed and had no issues.
I also attended a friend's dog when she came into Quarantine in whelp, as he lives in another state, and she also had no issues.
While Lilli was serving her 5 months in Germany, we paid board but she was also continuing her training, so the time was not wasted. She obtained her SchH1 title and we had toyed with waiting for her Korung, but she came into season and so we decided to get her onto a plane asap!
I would import again, but only with people that I trust to do the right thing. It is a very stressful time for the poor owners waiting in Australia, so much can go wrong and if they fail one of the tests they wont be able to come at all. I fully understand and approve of our Quarantine requirements, there are canine diseases in other countries that we are fortunate not to have here, but nevertheless, you do get a lot of grey hairs going through the process!
, we imported her in whelp.If it were not for the outstanding help of our German friends, Manuela and Frank Borowski and Ludger Goke, we would never have gotten her here or had her mated to the dog that we chose.
Dogs imported into Australia from Germany (and many other European countries) have to have the rabies titre test and then remain in Germany for 5 months following passing that test. In the last 30 days before they are able to fly out, there are a series of tests that must be done in order, but it is all spelt out in the Import Permit and most vets know what is being asked for.
In the last 4 days there are some additional requirements, such as being wormed and flea-treated. Then when the dog is ready to fly, there is the involvement of the German Govt vet to approve the paperwork and to seal the dog into the crate it will fly in. The dog cannot leave that crate until Australian Quarantine remove it at the Quarantine station. That is why we pay so much extra to ensure that our dogs get a direct flight and spend as little time in the crate as possible. We also paid for a much larger crate than she really needed, to ensure that she had plenty of room to get up and move about. Increasing the size of the crate ended up costing us an extra AUD $4000 for the flight, as the dogs are charged as "cargo" to come here.
If all is OK once they reach the Quarantine Station, they spend 30 days in final Quarantine and then are released. In that time, we are able to visit them up to 6 times per week and as long as all of their tests are in order, they can be exercised 4 times per week. It is made more difficult because Sydney Quarantine is not open on the weekends, so you have to be able to take time off work so that you can see your dog. You can also pay for groomers and dog walkers to go in and attend to your dog if you cant get there.
The staff in Sydney Quarantine are very good and I do not think that the dogs suffer much by being there, they get into the new routine very quickly. We took in toys, beds and bones as well as the food that we wanted fed and had no issues.
I also attended a friend's dog when she came into Quarantine in whelp, as he lives in another state, and she also had no issues.
While Lilli was serving her 5 months in Germany, we paid board but she was also continuing her training, so the time was not wasted. She obtained her SchH1 title and we had toyed with waiting for her Korung, but she came into season and so we decided to get her onto a plane asap!
I would import again, but only with people that I trust to do the right thing. It is a very stressful time for the poor owners waiting in Australia, so much can go wrong and if they fail one of the tests they wont be able to come at all. I fully understand and approve of our Quarantine requirements, there are canine diseases in other countries that we are fortunate not to have here, but nevertheless, you do get a lot of grey hairs going through the process!
by RealBitee on 14 January 2011 - 10:01
Australia is a hard country to live in and work with dogs as in protection and Schutzhund training, due to the very fact it is illegal and not allowed because of stupid government and especially the Australian dog comunity both showline and Working line people who all hate each other one way or another, becuase of politics and so on. That is why i believe it is great if people will start to import more of these dogs as it is getting hard to find a decent dog that will bite a sleeve these days in Australia.
by Echo on 14 January 2011 - 14:01
There is only one state of Australia where it is illegal to train your dog in the "C" phase of Sch., that is Victoria. Due to this state's legislation, you are only allowed to train your dog in "A" and "B".
In all other states, the total sport of Sch is acceptable and can de done without breaking any laws.
If you live in Victoria, as I do, then I sympathise with you, on not being able to fully train your dog.
There are sportdog clubs in QLD, NSW and SA.
There are still some in Vic. as well, although members cannot openly train their dogs on the sleeve, without running the risk of prosecution. Sad, but true.
Although the relationship between some of the SL and WL people could be greatly improved, I would not say that they all hate each other.
If you are having trouble finding a dog that will 'bite a sleeve", then you must not be looking in the right places.
We have breeders here who do breed very nice sport/service dogs and have also gone to great trouble/expense of importing good dogs to enhance the gene pool.
I applaud all breeders who have had the foresight to do so.
I would also say, that I hope not too many overseas breeders are put off exporting to this country, because of the extra hassle involved.
Geographically, we are isolated from the best of the gene pools, and the more good dogs we can get coming in, the better for the breed here.
In all other states, the total sport of Sch is acceptable and can de done without breaking any laws.
If you live in Victoria, as I do, then I sympathise with you, on not being able to fully train your dog.
There are sportdog clubs in QLD, NSW and SA.
There are still some in Vic. as well, although members cannot openly train their dogs on the sleeve, without running the risk of prosecution. Sad, but true.
Although the relationship between some of the SL and WL people could be greatly improved, I would not say that they all hate each other.
If you are having trouble finding a dog that will 'bite a sleeve", then you must not be looking in the right places.
We have breeders here who do breed very nice sport/service dogs and have also gone to great trouble/expense of importing good dogs to enhance the gene pool.
I applaud all breeders who have had the foresight to do so.
I would also say, that I hope not too many overseas breeders are put off exporting to this country, because of the extra hassle involved.
Geographically, we are isolated from the best of the gene pools, and the more good dogs we can get coming in, the better for the breed here.
by sonora on 20 January 2011 - 12:01
Hi,
Maybe ,''The German Shepherd Dog Council of Australia"
or Rhosynkennels,could possibly help you.
Just a thought.
Maybe ,''The German Shepherd Dog Council of Australia"
or Rhosynkennels,could possibly help you.
Just a thought.
by PabloDK on 20 January 2011 - 15:01
Hmm this sounds very difficult
I have an aussie who wants a bitch bred to my Kenzo and then imported. I have been trying to find something suitable at a reasonable price but it sounds as if this should be the least of my concerns.
Maybe its just easier to have some sperm frozen and shipped.
Kim
Kenzo:
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/pedigree/488455.html
I have an aussie who wants a bitch bred to my Kenzo and then imported. I have been trying to find something suitable at a reasonable price but it sounds as if this should be the least of my concerns.
Maybe its just easier to have some sperm frozen and shipped.
Kim
Kenzo:
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/pedigree/488455.html
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