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by Czech DDR Lover on 03 November 2010 - 21:11

Thank you all for your input on this important matter.  I believe this must be a fairly new implimentation on the part of AKC, because previously you needed a valid reason and approval of the breeder to get this accomplished. 

But now AKC is SOLICITING a name change...one can only imagine how many puppy and dog owners will jump on this with their cutsie little pet names...and without the dog's properly credited kennel names to boot. 

Or...how many owners/future breeders will really love the dog they get from "said breeder", and change this pup's name to carry their OWN kennel name...taking credit for their own kennel having produced this dog.?   IMO, the consequences and problems from allowing this, and more importantly AKC Soliciting this from anyone who just registered their dog...are far more problematic than beneficial.  Enough energy,  time and money is spent with what AKC Must do in order to keep their records accurately,  and mistakes do occur.. for all the dogs their database contains.  Why do something so unimportant which could cause a tremendous amount of additional errors in pedigree /dog tracking...it is only asking for trouble.  In the case of puppies being imported...I can imagine how the breeders in Europe would feel if their puppy was stripped of their kennel name;  I'm not sure whether or not AKC would allow that, since their's isn't a kennel registered with AKC>..

I too have suddenly been getting a big push from AKC to give out information on my puppy owners so they can push for them to register the pups.  

 

The "stupid name thing" is but one problem we all get to face, when the puppy owners decide to change the pup's originally given and registered name.  I did read AKC's criteria for changing names...and those with kennel names registered with AKC (another way for them to make money) provides breeders with nothing to guarantee your rights as a kennel and breeder any more than if you didn't register your kennel name with AKC. 

As a breeder, I designate Litter letters for the pups, different Letters for each litter, and given in chronological order as they are whelped, the same as is done in Germany.   It is a good way for us to instantly recognize what litter a said puppy derives from..and from there, we go immediately to their litter folders if there is anything the owners need to have help with on their puppy from us. 

If names are allowed to be changed at will, particularly in the cases that do not require breeder approval, permission or even the knowledge of a name being changed, where will this take us in the event the original information is not entered correctly, properly tracking the genetic background of the dog's parentage?    What will this do to misdirect the identity of dogs who have microchips and tattoo's on file, afterwhich, with the completion of a name change, these Identifications no longer have a dog to be matched to?   Has AKC considered the status of hip and elbow ratings that have been assigned to the dog as it was originally named???    How will it affect us, even with regard to the pedigree database, when we try to check for potential matings with a dog we KNOW existed, but who now has suddenly become a "new and different dog" so far as name tracking goes. 
The possibility for trouble I forsee as endless...
Jean


by matthews3662 on 03 November 2010 - 21:11

thank you for posting this info, I had no idea they could do that.

by Czech DDR Lover on 03 November 2010 - 21:11

AKC SOLICITS MEMBERS to change dog's name
by Schaferhunden on 03 November 2010 - 19:11 Schaferhunden

You can go to Create your own petition online. You would get more people to sign one then write letters

Thank you for this information Schaferhunden...

Would you be so kind as to post the link here onto this thread, for those who want to add their voice in the hopes of discouraging AKC from allowing the renaming of dogs without GOOD CAUSE?  

If I need to start a petition, I will do so.  Hopefully AKC will listen. 

Where are our breeder rights with AKC?  After all, we as breeders are the ones who support their organization with the funds entrusted to them for the registration of our litters.  I understand their take on allowing new puppy owners to name their own dogs...I as a breeder allow them to do that, but it has to be within my designated litter letter, and carry my kennel name.   I'm sure that most other breeders do so as well.  I have an excellent relationship with my puppy buyers, who understand and appreciate the work and effort that goes into the raising of each and every puppy.  They also understand the pride that we have in them, which is reflected in the fact that we want them to carry our kennel name.  They have no problem accepting my naming process and seem eager to come up with a correct Litter letter name for their new puppy... If they can't think of a good first name they like, which begins with the correct litter letter, they are allowed to add their "favorite name or call name" into the middle of the dog's name.  If they don't like that requirement, they are free to purchase their puppy elsewhere.  TO date I have never, EVER had a puppy client take issue or refuse to buy one of my pups because of my naming procedure.  


by Schaferhunden on 03 November 2010 - 21:11

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=Create+your+own+petition+online.&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 03 November 2010 - 21:11

Very simple to solve. No need for any steps to be taken......do as I have done for years..it is fool proof and I have had to enforce it two times..Customer removed my name off the dogs paper application and Akc reissued it after getting a copy of my contract the customer signed.. In a contract , the customer must sign and keep a copy for you and them": It says in my contract:    Said new owner must not remove T***** ***** , the name that is DBA in Galveston County, Texas in the County Courthouse, from this dog on this application and it must be on the dogs certificate and can never be removed. Removal of said name T***&((   will result in charges by the kennel owner and the AKC will honor this name as this is a legal contract between buyer and seller___________________
Must be signed and of course dated , proper address of where it was sold and keep copy in file.  The contract is honored at all times by AKC.. if said applicant removed your name of the dog you put on there., listed in the contract, whether you have a kennel or not, by your instructions on a signed contract, akc will not let them if you send them a copy of contract.  Always check you litter registration records several months after all dogs sold...check periodically online to see if someone has changed anything on your dogs...Another breeder just now is  having problems with contracts etc...akc will honor all legal paperwork if you have it to start with..Protect yourself always...

My names are not registered  with AKC..I donot want them in their hands..my names are mine registered by my DBA..I give everyone the right to name the dog anything they want as long as it does not remove the part I want kept on my certificates.


YR 

 



Plain and simple.............................

by Schaferhunden on 03 November 2010 - 22:11

Hello Yellow Rose.
 You are 100% correct  AKC has to honer the contract. But i do believe that breeders should protest to AKC
When they step on the rights of breeders.

Beardog

by Beardog on 03 November 2010 - 22:11

Every time I register the litter individually in my kennel name with my name as the breeder/owner (sometimes with co-owner), and then sign ownership transfer on the back of the individual registration certificate when a pup is sold. It's more expensive but pretty foolproof.
Beardog

DenWolf

by DenWolf on 03 November 2010 - 23:11

Jean, you are so very correct about the paperwork nightmare this will create down the line...

I had an absolutely AWFUL experience with this very thing a year ago.

Let me share THIS one with you all:

I sold 2 puppies to the east coast.. sent the paperwork along a few months later after receiving it back from AKC. I was checking online some weeks later, as Yellow Rose mentioned, and discovered the name of one of the pups had been changed without my permission.

For clarity,

I DO have a registered kennel prefix with AKC.

I DID register the ENTIRE litter in my name (as breeder) before transferring any paperwork.

I DO have a written contract containing a section about the kennel prefix.

The AKC played the 2-step BIG TIME with me for months, and the end result was the dog's name being changed to one I did NOT agree to/approve of.
The 3rd owners of the puppy sent in paperwork with my name forged on the "name change" form.. no actions were taken against either owner... AKC just decided and it "closed the case".

Yellow Rose is correct.. there needs to be very clear wording in any sales contract that the name will NOT be changed.. AKC did look at my contract, and decided it was not clear enough. They did put back my kennel prefix, but it was on a name I did NOT agree to.

I did not choose to renew my kennel prefix this year, and have not yet decided if I ever will. It made absolutely NO difference in protecting any of my hard work.

OH, WAIT...but there's MORE!!
Every puppy in that (and every one of mine) litter(s) is microchipped AND tattoed before leaving my home... those numbers are tied in directly with the litter number of the puppy, which eventually becomes the REGISTRATION number. The person I sold these puppies to mixed up the AKC slips and gave the new owner the WRONG paperwork! AKC decided it would just CHANGE the litter/registration number and modify THEIR records so that the chip and tattoo would match!!!! That was absolutely the coup de gras.

I'd be DELIGHTED to help STOP this stupid practice... seems to me that there should be some form that only the BREEDER can send in, with some type of account password or code..  I have even written AKC a special letter that NONE of my pups' names are to be changed in the future.. I am sure it won't help in the case of forgery.

Denese








by JudyK on 03 November 2010 - 23:11

Maybe the solution is to put a clause in the sales contract specifiying that changing the name voids the contract.  Might be enough to make some people hesitate to change a name considering the ramifications down the line should something crop up about the health of the dog.  AKC must be desperate to even consider such nonsense.

BoCRon

by BoCRon on 04 November 2010 - 00:11

 AKC, doing something that serves nothing but their bank account? Say it ain't so.






 


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