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by aceofspades on 03 September 2010 - 02:09
Royal Canin is bottom of the barrel in terms of quality. I would read a bit on HOD. Could possibly be that. How old is the pup? You mention 5 month restricted movement? So I he about 7 months then? If this is the case then I'm guessing that no matter what you do the problem won't be solved as by now the ears should also be up. I'm guessing there is a serious genetic defect here. A product of poor breeding? Perhaps? I know nothing of the kennel
by seby on 03 September 2010 - 02:09
OK, I did figure it out on my own, not a lot of litters from Digger in Poland.
by MAINLYMAX on 03 September 2010 - 02:09
jakiego rodzaju pies żywności możesz paszy mu?
What kind of dog food do you feed him?
by Liesjers on 03 September 2010 - 02:09
I would guess he was born that way. Pups should not need all those supplements to develop normally, even if they are eating Royal Canine. What does the vet and breeder say?
by doctor05 on 03 September 2010 - 02:09
this is his pedigree Gabi Team V -Max the breeder said when itold him after irecieve the puppy and isend him the photo he need just mineral ibred german for 13years many cases face me but we should be fair
by Liesjers on 03 September 2010 - 02:09
I don't think minerals are going to help, his pasterns look completely flat, deformed.
by eichenluft on 03 September 2010 - 02:09
He needs a high protein food and supplements of calcium and phosphorus, vit C - mainly a high protein food to strengthen the ligaments. Take him for long walks in deep sand or fine gravel - or put deep sand or fine gravel in a kennel area where he must walk in it. don't run him on hard surfaces at all - the ligaments need to firm up and yes it can be done.
ps a good natural source of calcium and phosphorus is raw egg and shell -
molly
by hexe on 03 September 2010 - 04:09
When were the pictures you posted in this thread taken, in comparison to the ones on his pedigree page? 'Cause the pasterns look OK in those photos...
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/pedigree/661403.html
by dogshome9 on 03 September 2010 - 04:09
Some of you folks have no idea !!
As soon as you see something that is " NOT QUITE " correct --- off you go and tell the owner that that their new puppy is abnormal >>>> A good diet, including some extra protien and natural calcium, walks on the beach or fine gravel and this puppy will be fine,
Don't worry he still has plenty of time for his ears to go up, they are already on the way.
As soon as you see something that is " NOT QUITE " correct --- off you go and tell the owner that that their new puppy is abnormal >>>> A good diet, including some extra protien and natural calcium, walks on the beach or fine gravel and this puppy will be fine,
Don't worry he still has plenty of time for his ears to go up, they are already on the way.
by aceofspades on 03 September 2010 - 05:09
Found an interesting article on flat pasterns in GSDs.
http://www.gopitbull.com/general-discussion/16621-weak-pasterns-german-shepherd-dog-lovers.html
Oooh can't hyperlink, I have no dashboard so you will have to copy and paste the link, but it talks about the effect of a high protein diet on the pasterns.
I don't know a lot about joint problems in the GSD....so far we have never had any. But I had a Great Dane that spent a year with us and during that time I learned a lot about HOD (Hypertrophic osteodystrophy) and feeding large and giant breed dogs high protein diets and how it isn't good for them to have high protein when they are puppies. I had learned a bit about protein and large breeds when I got my first GSD 13 years ago, but learned more when the Dane visited us.
My first instinct was to recommend a lower protein diet, but I see others here recommend higher protein. I'm no expert but I do know that higher protein causes dogs to grow faster, that is why large and giant breed puppy food has lower protein than traditional puppy food. The discussion I linked to above makes sense to me because it is recommending lowering protein. That is what I would personally do....try lowering protein. But again, I am certainly no expert, this is just what makes sense to me. Lower protein, slows down the growth and allows the bones and joints to grow solid without extra added weight on them putting stress on the bones and joints.
Good luck. I have never seen pasterns like that in a dog. I honestly thought it was HOD or a deformity. Still not sure about the ears though.
Hmm, can't break on the page...I'm going to try to add some html and see if it works (it worked) (. I did not make this one giant paragraph on purpose. Anyway, I'm editing to add this link which has information on HOD
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vetsurgerycentral.com%2Fhod.htm&ei=SYyATMPkI5CinQe4sfDwDg&usg=AFQjCNHcIyCVwOIG6xZesh701qnYEInEDQ&sig2=YCUnBaRsJ4c58ryryFTIdA
http://www.gopitbull.com/general-discussion/16621-weak-pasterns-german-shepherd-dog-lovers.html
Oooh can't hyperlink, I have no dashboard so you will have to copy and paste the link, but it talks about the effect of a high protein diet on the pasterns.
I don't know a lot about joint problems in the GSD....so far we have never had any. But I had a Great Dane that spent a year with us and during that time I learned a lot about HOD (Hypertrophic osteodystrophy) and feeding large and giant breed dogs high protein diets and how it isn't good for them to have high protein when they are puppies. I had learned a bit about protein and large breeds when I got my first GSD 13 years ago, but learned more when the Dane visited us.
My first instinct was to recommend a lower protein diet, but I see others here recommend higher protein. I'm no expert but I do know that higher protein causes dogs to grow faster, that is why large and giant breed puppy food has lower protein than traditional puppy food. The discussion I linked to above makes sense to me because it is recommending lowering protein. That is what I would personally do....try lowering protein. But again, I am certainly no expert, this is just what makes sense to me. Lower protein, slows down the growth and allows the bones and joints to grow solid without extra added weight on them putting stress on the bones and joints.
Good luck. I have never seen pasterns like that in a dog. I honestly thought it was HOD or a deformity. Still not sure about the ears though.
Hmm, can't break on the page...I'm going to try to add some html and see if it works (it worked) (. I did not make this one giant paragraph on purpose. Anyway, I'm editing to add this link which has information on HOD
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vetsurgerycentral.com%2Fhod.htm&ei=SYyATMPkI5CinQe4sfDwDg&usg=AFQjCNHcIyCVwOIG6xZesh701qnYEInEDQ&sig2=YCUnBaRsJ4c58ryryFTIdA
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