BH Prep..Best Session YET!! GO GALAN!! - Page 2

Stacy, I've done the same thing with "okay" and Phil didn't have to say it.  I'll never use that as a release word for another dog.  It's so ingrianed in his brain though, I think it would be near impossible to change it at this point.  I feel your pain, LOL.  Sounds like you BOTH did a great job, Kudos!

Thanks GSDT!
It is ingrained in both of our brains.. I was actually coming on here to really embarrass myself by asking..
"Anyone have a new release word I can start trying to use?"
I know it will be hard since I have used it as a release for every dog I have ever owned, but then these are the first dogs I have planned on raising specifically for competetion so I have got to get it together on that. It won't be easy LOL
Geez, I have even been catching myself double commanding an awful lot (with the kissy sound then command, if they are not focused on me...I'm working on it ...whew!"
And to think I wanted to be breeder... HAHAHAHAHA!!! Yeah, I see that happening in the next few years <sarcasm>
Ah well,
Off to training! Hope you guys have a great night. Thanks again for the support and to the people who sent the encouraging pm's... It is very much appreciated
All the Best
Stacy

You go girl.doing great..keep things as they are right now  until the BH  then change..do not worry trying to do things different..keep on with the everyday thing and you will be on top of it.   Good Luck

Not to change the subject , but what happened to TEXAS?


tupak

Stacy,
Great Job with Galan,  he sure seems to be a great dog for you.  I know you wanted something to learn with and it seems he is just the dog. 
My release command is Lauwff..  Not sure if that is really a word or not, but it works good.  Call me if you want the correct pronounciation.. 
I am taking a class to get Rookies AKC CD and CDX titles.  It has been so much fun.  There are 5 of us, one of the other dogs is actually Rookies sister.  I am really enjoying this class and we are planning on our first two legs for the end of Aug. 

I am happy for you and the progress your making with your dogs..

KIM

www.justk9s.com

Stacy
When i finish work with Izzy the word i use and she knows what it means is PLAY
When she was a puppy still is i guess, i used to train her on the car park of the local Supermarket next to it is a piece of grass land.
So i trained there the little basics, then afterwards i walked to the piece of Land  told her to sit then i am off the place where we trained then i said PLAY she was away running round then came back for her Ball to be thrown.
Now however for months now i do not train her on the Car park when they get older because they start to think this is the training field and when you get to the club proper it is play time, So we only now chase and exercise on the area near the super market and that is what she expects to happen. But the word i use after work is finished is 'PLAY'
Steve1

Tupak
Texas...sigh... We both want to go back sooo bad, but we feel like we are being guilted by Matt's dad to stay here and continue renting this house from him... He has not had good luck with past renters, plus with the rent being so high (we don't get a "family discount") it would be hard for him to find a renter anyway with the economy as bad as it is.
So it looks like we'll be staying for awhile longer. Besides, I think his dad likes having him close by to work on their 4 or so restoration classic cars and trucks ;-)
I have accepted it for now, and just plan to continue working my dogs..
Good advice about sticking with the commands he is used to until after the BH. Lord knows I have confused the poor dog enough over the last year or so. Thanks for the well wishes!
Kim,
Glad to see ya lady! :-) I hope you are doing well, it sounds like you are having a great time with Rookie and your group! ...I will give you a call soon. I certainly have no idea how to pronounce Lauwff, so PLAY might work better since even if you tell me I'll probably forget LOL A nonsensical word might work well though, or maybe a Spanish word, since I tend to toss a few around here and there (and NO, not just swears haha)
Galan really has been great for me to "learn" with. My breeder chose well for me.
I just spoke to a lady last night at training who is doing AKC OB with her dog and there is a (competetion? rally?) coming up in October, I believe she said... I was thinking about entering Caya, as she will be 7 months then. I still plan on doing SchH with her but she is a really amazing puppy and I think she would do very well since she seems eager to please. I don't want to overwhelm myself or the dogs, with teaching them different things at once, so I haven't decided for sure, and I have to look at the rules too. The lady I spoke with last night and my training partner said it's a lot of fun, so I may give it a try. It all depends on whether I can teach her what she needs to know before Oct., and keep it fun. If she gets bored or shows any signs of  being confused, I will pass on it and focus only on SchH. Being new at this, I don't know if it's a great idea to try too many different things at once. I have never competed in AKC, but I have trained all of my pets in the past in basic obedience and it was always simple and fun and I got compliements on my two rottie brothers where ever I went with them, so I may be able to pull it off, if I can do it without over working her. I guess I could at least go for her CGC :-) I know she would pass that! And it shouldn't be too stressful for either of us, as I take her out a lot when I visit friends and she is very ladylike! Especially for a puppy. Anyway, I sure did write a book there LOL I'll call ya soon :-)
Stacy

Steve,
I was afraid I was going to run out of room up there haha...
I think PLAY is a great word, but do you think it may sound too much like OK? Sometimes I think Galan has selective hearing ;-) Whichever word I come up with I know will be a difficult transition for him.
Do you think I will have to just keep him on a leash in the sit position, with the fur saver and use the word often and give him mild corrections? Man I would feel really bad doing it since we have done this for so long. Like Tupak wisely suggested though I am going to wait until after we go for the BH before I try a new word. (Training ended up being cancelled for tonight at the last minute, so I didn't get to work on that anyway)  

I know a lot of these questions may seem silly, but I have confused this poor dog enough already and I'm sure I will again, but I am trying not to make the same mistakes with my youngsters so learning as much as I can now, before I get to far into their training will be much easier to fix now than later with them.
(poor Galan... everyone told me "You better look closely into the pedigree of your first working dog and learn as much as you can about the parents as well as the dogs behind him, because you ARE going to make a lot of mistakes and need a dog that will be able to handle that, mentally" Was that ever the truth!!

Stacy

Stacy
There is no reason to change how you have worked him
You have come a long way together since Matt gave him back to you to train and i think you have done a great job of work with him,
The only thing i would be careful of and it is not a change but is to make sure whist he is on the working field it is WORK of course he can break off to have his Ball or such then release it, but that is Play and Work for you are teaching him to release the Ball or such on Command, which is part of the ScHh training
Once you finish then he can play throw the ball etc then release the ball again that is also work
No' the word PLAY does not sound like Okay you emphasize the word meaning PLAYEE you will get my meaning even if i have not put it down correctly in the right term
Always stop on the edge of the work field at a sit position then give him the command to walk off
What i am trying to say is as soon as you walk onto a Training Ground it is Work only a bit of play with the ball in between the exercises to build the dog up but you are working even then because you get the Dog to release the ball on command
Carry on the way you have been doing, Galan is doing good so are you keep it straight foreward and simple. and as we say over here Rustig meaning Calm
Best Regards
Steve

I have been doing AKC obedience with my female for 4 yrs now. We love it. My trainer has trained multiple dogs in multiple disciplines. She has a SCH III on her male, IPO3, and just finished his CDX. One of the problems between AKC and SCH would be in heeling. If your dogs bumps you in AKC you can get points taken off. In SCH they like the dog 'very close' and bumping is good. It might confuse a younger dog if you were trying to get titles in multiple areas. I would finish a dog to a SCH III before I started 'fixing' things for AKC obedience. I have seen AKC Rally obedience trials, and for me, it just seems like a starting point to getting AKC titles. I would go to some trails and see what they are all about before you start training for it. JMO. As far as a release command, I use the word 'touch' with my hand out for a touch. She learned to touch when she was a puppy and just started using the hand touch for her release. She will go touch too, and that is different from the touch with the hand for a release.

Thank you guys for your confidence and advice. Sorry I took so long to respond, but decided to take a minute off from the message board.
Steve,
I will see about getting some video to send you. It's been dark so the videos don't show up very well. We have been working very hard so hopefully come September we will be well prepared.
Galan got to do a bit of protection work with the new helper last night. He put him on an intermediate sleeve, and the helper liked his full, hard grip. Galan was a little rusty on the hold and bark since he hasn't done protection in a few months, but he didn't take too long to remember and I was happy  with him and the new helper.
Indi did well too and was her usual possessive self :-)
A strange thing happened...A lady I have only met a few times asked me where I got Indi from. She had seen a dog that looked exactly like Indi somewhere else...from a lady here in the US who has Zasko sperm! Isn't is something how distinct his offspring are that someone can recognize a half sibling, having had no idea of the pedigree?! It could be coincidence, and maybe the dog wasn't related to Indi at all, but what are the odds that the exact person who has the stored semen has a dog who looks just like mine? :-) Probably little to none...

dm,
I appreciate your input. My male bumps me a lot so I know that we would probably end up with negative points if we tried doing the AKC  :-) Being a new handler, it's probably not a good idea for me to try multiple disciplines. Thanks! I like watching it, so I guess I'll just enjoy it as a spectator for now.

Stacy