"NO CURS" EXPOSED FOR WHAT SHE REALLY IS!!! - Page 2

how is this for starts?

Tethering is almost as misunderstood as the pit bull breed itself! Just as those who are not familiar with the breed make statements like "their jaws lock", so too people unfamiliar with proper tethering techniques will state that "tether is cruel" and "chaining a dog makes it mean" - both statements being demonstratively false.

For instance, it is often quoted that "the majority of fatal dog attacks are chained dogs". In reality, 75% of 431 fatal dog attacks studied by dog attack expert Karen Delise were caused by untethered dogs. Obviously, untethered dogs present a far greater threat to people than tethered dogs.

All the friendly, well adjusted tethered dogs in the world, like Erin Fay at left, prove that appropriate tethering does not "cause" a sound dog to become aggressive. In reality, this myth is easily traced to the fact that most aggressive dogs are tethered to protect people.


http://www.workingpitbull.com/dogfighting2.htm it gets a little creepy right about here...

Wonderful promotion,
excellent job.


I am impressed.

Thank you Two moons, though I know you are being saracastic, because you always are.  : )

I'm sorry SteveO confused some of you.  You either get it or you don't.  To those of you who don't, just move on.

SitasMom, i't appears you *may* be offended on my anti-crating, pro-appropriate tethering stand?  If you would like to discuss it, please PM me, I won't bite.

As to the dog fighting pages on my site, I suspect your reading comprehension may have led you to believe that I am somehow "pro dog fighting"?  If so, please check back and read more carefully.  What I have done on my site is something very few (if any) other people have done. Instead of just having some dim wit humane officer bleating about how awful dog fighting is, I let the dog fighters themselves discuss it, describe it, etc, in order to let people make up their own mind.  It is my opinion that *most* people, reading those pieces, will find just how disturbed the average dog fighter is.  As well, there has almost never been a case of a dogfght being busted which did not involve several other crimes.

Anywho, I gotta go to bed, so again, sorry to those who are confused, thanks to Steve for his kind words.  I'm an outspoken person, and I certainly do NOT expect everyone to agree with me! : )

Not saying you're wrong but if you think of the numbers, there is still a ? On the prctice. You say that 25% of attacks happen while a dog is tethered, right? Well isn't that a high number? What I am saying is, what is the percentage of dogs tethered? I would be willing to bet it is well under 25%. Are you following my logic?

Following your logic.  Now follow mine:  what percent of "aggressive" dogs are tethered versus "friendly" dogs?  See what I mean.  If you have a mean dog, in most communities you tie it yup.  So the chances should be much higher that it would bite.

ANyway, its just a fact that tethering doesn't make sound dogs aggressive, as the millions of tethered coonhounds, birddogs, sled dogs, bulldogs, etc point out.

Oh, and Sitasmom, having seen your idiotic post on the other thread, I retract my offer: no use trying to reason with a moron.

I'm just pointing out that those stats don't support the argument. To say only 1 in 4 attacks are from a dog tethered is great when way less than 25% of dogs are tethered, is rediculous. How often do any of you see a tethered dog. I live in a rural area and I see one in a great while. They are out there 24/7. The owner never socializes and merely fills their bowl and places it within reach of the chain. I barely ever see a tethered dog though. I wonder what the stat is on that? Maybe 1 out of 100 or more? That's 1%. You see, I understand what you are saying about huskies, etc. But many of them are taken out and worked, etc. On a regular basis. It wouldn't be much worse than a Sch dog tethered instead of kenneled. It's worked every day and gets out into the world. BUT that's not the norm with a tethered dog. Normally they are there foreverm

Well, EVERY type of confinement can certainly be abused.  Tethering certainly can be.  So can crating I think you will agree...  So can a cement kennel.  When I speak about tethering, I'm speaking about the many people who do it appropriately, just like you hear so many people supporting locking a dog in a crate, saying "oh, it;s humane!"  It can be. So can tethering.  There is nothng inherently "evil" about tethering...  from a square foot viewpoint, it is FAR more humane than kenneling or crating.  So, there are pros and cons for everything. : )  G'night!  

So,
is this about how dogs are kept in regards to attacks?
Is this breed specific?
Is this about morons?
Is this Whats My Line?

Since the topic bar is not working correctly,
What is the topic of this thread?



Moons.

Nothing, don't worry about it. SteveO said some kind words about me and it confused some and angered others.  Of course there were a couple nice comments. I blushed and am now off to bed.  Just move on. 

Welcome to the club, NoCurs. Animal Rights organizers go after pit bulls, too. You can't own a bully dog and have a treadmill or a break stick on the property without risk of being accused of being a dog fighter. You can't take any semblance of an objective / impartial reflection on the history of dog fighting without being accused of being a dog fighter. It doesn't matter how good of a dog mommy you are. The better you make your dogs look, the more they may hate you. The gal who uses her pits for SAR work (forpitssake.com) had one of her SAR dogs poisoned.. maybe it was one of the AR activists, who have also been known to poison crated dogs at dog shows.

http://www.forpitssake.org/  If you're going to keep that myth about bloodthirsty fighting dogs going, you can't have anyone making them look good!

Obviously, the ARs are disappointed and dismayed that some people don't "get it", and see things their way. Their thing is accusation. Their glee and anticipation are palpable when they think they have a chance to make someone look bad.

I have identified at least three areas the AR legal activists attack dog ownership on:

1. Humane concerns
2. Consumer protection
3. Public Safety.

Pit bulls have given them two platforms (1 and 3) to strike on, playing to both public fears and sympathies, but these are incongruous and have given them some inconsistent results and problems in their PR campaigns. The "big scare" of pit bull menace is now overplayed and died down a bit, but there is an even bigger part of the population who own and love these dogs. Wholesale efforts to outlaw and kill them have backfired on the ARs and undermined their own support base.