My Final Thoughts on USA By-law Change - Page 8

GSDCA-WDA has always been the B team whenit comes to the sport.

People jumping the cliff like lemmings insteadt of thinking for themself.

USA now has 11 SVF judges.

wda the b team?  really.   from what i have noticed, most of the team members are both.  i believe wallace payne has been on wusv teams for both usca and wda, with the same dog if im not mistaken.  

it is no secret that some people who did not make the world team via usca, went and competed at wda nationals to try and make a spot,  if that is what u are referring to.

i aspire to make the world team some year,,, dont know how soon it may be, but it is a goal of mine.  maybe i wont join either club till im ready, then join usca and if i dont make it, quit them and join wda.    too bad thats  the way it would have to be seeing as usca wont allow me to be a member of both. 


"USA now has 11 SVF judges."
wonderful.  but  what does that mean?   how does that  affect me?  does that make my title more than if was given by a regular usca judge, or wda judge?   would a regular SV judge be better than an SVF? 

surely, you have been able to note the sarcasim in my typing by now,, but you seem to keep bringing up such little details while failing to see, or at least look at,  the overall picture. 

Bob, i think it is great that you support usca.  i find it admirable that you defend them with all of your angst toward the akc.  You keep pushing what you  will and I will keep trying to open the eyes of others. 

Elkoorr,,,, really.  lemmings?  or is it just a group of people who have had enough, and are wanting a change, seeing as how one group has basically forced them into it.   oh, i know the responese im going to get,,,,usca didnt force anything, they gave you a choice.   well the "other" club didnt put me in this position.  usca did. 

john
still a usca member,,  expires 8/10 ,,

Nia - what she was talking about is that if you have a DVG membership, because you are through them a member of AWDF, you can still trial your dog at a USA trial.  She was not saying a DVG trial/regional etc. would qualify you for the Nationals.  Just that you do not need a USA membership to trial at USA trials and would have to honor the AWDF membership vis a vis the DVG membership. 

If something got passed that would preclude a member AWDF organization member's members from participating, I did not see the amemndment, unless the requirement to be a USA member to trial at a USA trial changed the honoring of the AWDF members from trialing ?

Can you clarify that since you have seen the language of the amendments?

To say WDA is the weaker team is not fair or accurate - no one is the weaker team and as it now stands not the weaker components of the combined team.  Charlie Mezaros was 2nd in the WUSV and to my knowledge has never been a USA member. Another team members who has also been in the top 3, was Wallace Payne who that year was on the USA portion of the team, but in other years was on WDA portion, then there has been Jim Lempert, Dave Kroyer and more.  Not nice to cheapen or lessen their accomplishments by saying they are the weaker team.

There is so much, or should I say was, of the best dogs crossing over politcal lines and making the team it really has made for a better team overall - other than Charley, I am pretty sure that everyone was a dual member.

She SPECFICALLY said/asked that she could enter regionals or nationals as a DVG member with a great dog. I responded, accurately, to THAT statement. What she wrote was abundantly clear. Perhaps she "meant" something else and you are just more prescient than I am. :-)

Nia, she had pm'd me and I gave her the info - so yes, pre-knowledge.

Niahater - that is a bit mean spirited - The thing is, Nia is knowledgeable.  But also she is a staunch loyalist to USA and that is her right.  Her posts usually are not off on the facts.  She believes USA to be the best club to belong to that comports to what she beleives in and is best for her.  Conversely you have the right to post what you did too.

I have been chiming in quite a bunch too lately - just trying to get info out there that is unbiased and factual because I do beleive this amendment has jarred everyone.  I have been a member of all the clubs for 11-12 years, and have thoroughly enjoyed what each has to offer.  Some people feel more strongly about certain organizations, and that's OK.

Me, I just wish the amendment would be lifted and it go back to not being restricted because it is not going to end the perpetual posturing of which is the better club, with the better dogs, and just who is THE ONE protecting the breed.   I am getting ready to post the Comparsion Chart of the FCI to the AKC GSD Breed Standard - there is really no difference and everyone can read the sources - I just cut and pasted and lined each item up for easier reading.  Whoopee another thread! :)

Morning Kim:  Will be looking forward to the charts