My Final Thoughts on USA By-law Change - Page 7

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Kim Gash

by Kim Gash on 11 November 2009 - 18:11

Jayne241-

You are just an individual member at that point - like any club, if you have no club affiliation, and there is no club closeby, you just have to go to whatever club trial you can get to.

In all of the organziations, you can be an individual member, you do not have to belong to a club to be member of the parent club.  You can go trial at the clubs.

Currently, USA is the only club that requries you to be amember to trial even at club level - that was just passed last weekend along with the membership restriction.

With DVG and WDA, you do not have to be a member to trial up to National events.

Here is what Sandy Purdy of DVG wrote regarding at-large-members:

As far as at-large members that we Americans refer to. Our Sammelgruppen or at-large members are in the form of a club in each individual KG. They have no voting rights and cannot show at the nationals or KG Chps.. They can only participate in club trials and earn their titles.

What she is saying is that it is a "virtual" club - no physical club.  KG's FYI are their Regions.  So for each region, an at large member is just included in the "virtual" club in that region.

Hope that makes it clear.

by Gustav on 11 November 2009 - 18:11

The difference between good and great leaders is not only justifying the intent of an action, but CALCULATING the IMPACT of an action. Time will tell on this amendment but initial response indicate this move was very shortsighted.

Kim Gash

by Kim Gash on 11 November 2009 - 18:11

Well there goes a pretty good club and one that does alot to promote Schutzhund.  I think it is obvious that Wallace Payne's club will go. Carlos has been a top competitor and just returned from the AWDF team this year.  Shame that anyone is forced to making a choice or resigning on principal.

I have heard there are about 6 more show/breed oriented clubs leaving and going over to WDA. 

On working dog oriented clubs, with Carlos and Wallace it makes 3 with another club here in the midwest that is resigning.

How many other clubs are out there that are resigning/canceling in protest?  How many members?


BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 11 November 2009 - 18:11

Maybe now it the time to create a club independent of the parent clubs. Sounds like it to me... (when you get it together) let me know when you need media support. Needs to be 100 % Constitutional though, you know American. 

LOL

"never let a good crisis go to waste"  

Woof Woof




Phil Behun

by Phil Behun on 11 November 2009 - 19:11

RSV2000

djc

by djc on 12 November 2009 - 07:11

DVG does not have SV judges do they??? That would put a GSD person right back in the spot where USCA put us in not having SV judges! The only choice is the WDA and yes there has been progress with the AKC and they will now recognize Sch titles! THat's huge progress and it is the WDA that has worked on this for years.
WDA all the way!!

Phil Behun

by Phil Behun on 12 November 2009 - 08:11

DVG is a working dog group only, no conformation.  They have their own judges.

djc

by djc on 13 November 2009 - 05:11

The SV is BOTH working and conformation judges. They are the only judges Germany's SV will recognize in score books.

Mystere

by Mystere on 13 November 2009 - 15:11

Not true. The SV recognized the scores from USA judges--those titles can be used in any breed survey in the US. Further, several USA judges are now SVF (SV Foreign) judges.

by VomMarischal on 13 November 2009 - 17:11

UScA has to recognize any of the AWDF groups/members/titles, including DVG, including at national events. However, DVG titles won't count toward breed surveys. That's how it was explained to me. Which is fine with me as I don't show my dogs. Don't give a hoot about conformation titles, since 9 out of 10 were about politics any-whooo. I just don't breed to males who aren't correct.

So if you belong to DVG, you CAN get to the regionals or nationals. Assuming you have a great dog!





 


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