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Elkoorr

by Elkoorr on 04 November 2009 - 19:11

The other pups are not of normal color either. i doubt that this is a clean mutation of a gene.... more like a crippled one starting with dad.

by silverish on 04 November 2009 - 20:11

We will not be breeding the panda puppy, as this is one of the reasons why we kept her, a lot of people just wanted to breed her for her rare colour because people were willing to pay a lot more for her. We will be breeding her father again, and seeing as this rare and not completely understood ... we shall see what happens!
As I said that picture of the father makes him look a lot light than he actually is here are some pictures of him.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/photo.php?pid=3295785&id=502620610

and the pups are regular colours, only 2 of them are black and silver like mine, the camera just makes them look much lighter, and the little white one is definitly not silver, she is polar bear white! But I will post pictures as she grows! Also I dont know if this is important but her ears have been standing since she was 6 weeks which is odd, the rest of the puppies ears are still down ... just starting to perk up! And her nose was pink when she was born.
I would send DNA away but this is more of an interest for me than anything, I am also considering doing my thesis project on this, which then I would myself test the DNA and try and figure out what exactly is going on here!

If she is a 'mutant' then this colour should not show up in the next breeding because mutation rate is extremely low and the chances of the same gene mutating again is astronomical because as a few people have said there is no relation between pandas and white shepherds.

Either way she is an absolute perfect little pup, house trained at 7 weeks, listens, sits, doesn't beg... typical easy training of shepherds. And as she is a pet, not a breeding prospect I couldn't ask for anymore, plus she is just the cutest little thing!
 


Rookabadooka

by Rookabadooka on 04 November 2009 - 21:11

This is Abbie.  I have never really found out what made her coat so crazy.  Think your pup is BEAUTIFUL!  Enjoy!

by VomMarischal on 04 November 2009 - 23:11

Too bad we can't breed the mutant colors, if you'll pardon the expression, because it would be fascinating to find out what they throw when crossed with various other color genes. 

by Delilah on 05 November 2009 - 14:11

Hi, preety pup.
If she is pure, and not a panda then she may be a white with "birth marks"

www.kerstoneshepherds.net/colors/colors2.htm  its the last color listed on the page

pod

by pod on 05 November 2009 - 15:11

Hi Delilah.  I hadn't seen those markings on a Shepherd before, thanks for posting.  But no, that type of white is the E locus again, not the unpigmented type of white of this puppy.  What's referred to as "birthmarks" on that webpage are in fact somatic mutations and are quite common in ee recessive yellows (white in Shepherds), though usually they are very small spots or just individual hairs.  On that particular dog you can see  the path of pigment cell migration as the mutation follows a line outwards from the neural crest.  There are lots of instances of odd patterned somatic mutations on yellow Labradors and many photos of them on the net.

The pink nose of silverish's pup at birth is normal for extreme white.  Pups in other breeds with this type of extensive white spotting are the same eg Dalmatians and Bull Terriers.  It can take weeks for the pigment to colonise the nose, and sometimes it doesn't completely fill in.

VonIsengard

by VonIsengard on 05 November 2009 - 16:11

FFS.

GSDSRULE

by GSDSRULE on 05 November 2009 - 20:11

What does FFS mean?

by beetree on 05 November 2009 - 20:11

My guess is: For F*cks Sake 

Probably a reference to the breeding for fascination comment. That slippery slope thing. The GSD Standard vs. disqualifying color argument, "No good dog is a bad color". You know, that one.


Red Sable

by Red Sable on 05 November 2009 - 20:11

I'm guessing it means.  F***** Freaky Sh*t.    I know that is what I am thinking. LOL.






 


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