SUPER dog any ideas on who it is please?? - Page 2

Wow.  

Sixth generation has:

SchH3/FH
2X VA1 Uran vom Wildsteiger Land
SZ/1526684

Show dog for sure, but otherwise mostly good workingline.

sik of people talke  about show line and working line i cant bleve how many stupet people out there ,

if you want to see show line working  go

youtube

k9defenceaz 
you see some show line working

vedo at work

Easily impressed.  Escape grip was short and a re-grip on the out command.  That means the rest of the performance was perfect.  Not so much.  Slight wrinkle in the blind as the handler approaches, anticipates the call back, forging on the back transport and a couple of chews on the out.  Pursuit on the long bite was fast and direct however the high catch had to be on the helper, very dangerous.  Elbow was way too high on the catch causing the flier.  Dramatic for the onlookers,,,,,,not so good for the dog.  1/2 pt. for the slight look in the blind, 1/2 pt. for the flinch before the callback we didn't see, 1 pt. for the shorty on the escape, 1 pt. for the re-grip, 1 pt. for the forging and at least 1 pt. for the 2 chews on the back transport, 95 pts.  That is, provided the blind search, side transports and all secondary work were perfect.

Except he isn't a show line dog,
      Sue, I said he was a show working mix, which he is . Yeah, more working, but last I checked , these dogs WERE Showline, at least that's what my pedigrees tell me.
SchH3/FH
2X VA1 Uran vom Wildsteiger Land
SZ/1526684 SchH3/FH/IP3
V12 Irk von Arminius
SZ/1437161
SchH2
V Palme vom Wildsteiger Land
SZ/1478659
SchH1
VA13 Irk von der Wienerau
SZ/1363751
SchH3
VA1 Canto von Arminius
SZ/1277394
SchH1
V Diana von der Malvenburg
SZ/1328199
   And a couple of others, my only point was, you can ADD a little one way or the other, sort of what my plan was, but in the opposite. I like the show lines, my sister likes the working lines,She stuck closer on the DDR lines, I went with the Rikkor!

    Wasn't looking for an argument, just found the pedigree interesting. That's all! That is what I'm doing here, learning dogs and their pedigrees

 

KitKat you and I will have to agree to disagree.  One showline dog 6 generations back is not proof of anything to me.  It is to you, which is fine - different strokes.   Falk von den Wolfen has Irk Weinerau in him and Asko v Lutter has Canto, but I would STILL consider Falk and Asko to be working line dogs.  I guess it all depends on how far back you want to go, from what I have read the split didn't start until the 1970s.

Yeah, many good dogs have a bit of showlines from the 80s some generations back, I would consider these workingdogs if work have been the focus for many generations after that. But I guess some people would argue the little showblood far back have contributed to the workingquality of the dog today;)