German shepherds overheat in car, die - Page 3

Forgot to mention, that at the Canadian Championships, the schedule was changed at the last minute, with dogs competing starting at 5 am and ending around 10am and then starting again around 8 pm and ending during the late evening.  The competitors appreciated the change and the GSSCC lost a lot of revenue from midday lunch and beer tent sales becasue there there were very few spectators.  Who would go to a dog event to watch at 5 am except the wife/hubby and club fellows?  But again, animal safety took precedence and all were safe.

Circuited that is just complete crap. You need to get your facts straight before you let lies spew from your mouth.

I was at the sieger show this year with this girl. There was no tent we stayed at a motel 6. All of the dogs stayed overnight in the rooms that we had including puppies. When told the puppies could not be on show grounds they were taken back to the hotel and left there in the air conditioning. Not in the truck. Also there were tons of other people there that had dogs in their cars too. Many in trucks with the tailgate dropped. I also dont know where you are getting that her dogs live in her truck while shes at home. They have it better than anyone else in the house. They stay in the house all day and if left during the day are in a room with a really cold air conditioner. Not in some truck. They get to sit on a nice comfy bed. Or sit on couches while people are eating or watching tv. If there is even one tiny tiny thing suspected wrong with them they are taken to the vet immediately and given every check up to make sure they are fine. Even if its just a tiny slice in a paw pad due to something sharp on the grass during training.  Also she does not breed her female every time it comes into season. Especially since she has 2 females. I've seen purposely skipped heat cycles on the females so that they are in good health. And at the test in St. Johns only 1 of the dogs that died was there first of all, second of all, Mostly everyone there had dogs in the back of a van or truck with tailgates dropped or just the backs of van doors open. None of those dogs died. And all of her dogs were rotated all the time. You would have to yell at literally 90% of the people there that day for having dogs in the same exact set up. Except that the dogs were all watched and obviously nothing happened to any of them. Especially since its not like the shows where they allow crating inside which is what would have been done if that were offered. Everybodys going to have their own opinion on the story of the 2 dogs that died and thats fine everyone is entitled. I saw the windows open the morning of. I believe someone closed them who isnt this girl. Whether you want to argue about things like that is one thing, but total complete all out lies is another and I cant let you go around saying stuff that just isnt true about her.

Lying, cheating, stealing--that isn't what killed those dogs. And no one deserves to have their dogs die like this. And no dog deserves it either. That, to me, is much more of a concern than what this person might or might not have done.

The idea of someone coming and closing the windows on my truck when I have dogs in it is horrendous and scary. It's enough for me to start trying to think of ways to prevent this from happening--drilling holes in the window frames and "bolting" the windows open maybe.

Transporting dogs safely in the summer should be something that all of us should care about and think about. The covered back of a pickup is often a safe option--but certainly not in this case. It was only 80 degrees that day--would you have been worried if you took a dog in for a vet visit and left one crated in the truck? I wouldn't have (not as long as windows were open--although I might have had the back window/liftdoor of the truck cap open too).

I am very disguisted at this girl and her friends for continuing their lies. Grow up and for once act like responsible adults and admit you screwed up! You all should know better and I'm glad I don't have friends like any of you.
I am very aware of the situation at the Seiger Show in Chicago, I was there and I know what I was told, by Jen herself!! I've seen her around at many dog shows and have witnessed for myself how she crates her dogs in the back of a pick up truck. My husband has a pick up truck and that would be the last place I would EVER crate my "show" dog. I too have worked for many veterinarians and have been training dogs for 2 decades. Any one that knows anything about dogs, knows better than to do what she did. You girls need to stop pointing fingers and acusing others of lying when you all are doing the same thing. The truth hurts. Deal with it. I don't know how any of you could ever show your faces on any type of training field or dog show ever again!!!
Most of all, stop putting a "FAKE" cape on your dog. You do NOT own a "Certified Service Dog" of any kind. It's people like YOU that make it hard for people with legitimate assistance dogs to have public access. YOU DO NOT HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS RIGHTS with only aTherapy Dog International ID card. This is only a step above a CGC and every one knows that. Again, this does NOT give you public legal access under the State and Federal regulations for Certified Assistance Dogs and under the ADI laws!!! Shame, shame on you!!!
Time to grow up, the jig is up!!

You are a damn liar Camile! - Send reply
Sent Aug 14, 2009 05:47 PM from Shepherd Woman
Camile, this is Anna Hull. The owner of the long coat that kicked your dogs ass in Ohio at the show at which you got VERY pissed off an left not even showing the next day!!!!!!!!!!! With that said, you are fucking liar! Jennifer is the breeder of my young male and I know for a fact that you have lied in every sentence that you typed! What the hell happened with your dog at Seiger?????????? You were suppose to have a professional handler and everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are a lying fucking bitch and I pray for you if I EVER see you at another show! You think that your shit doesnt stink when infact it stinks the worse out of anyone on this database. You owe jen an appology if you ask me and you need to get your stories straight before you spread lies about them. I wasn't going to email you, but some one needs to say something to you. Get off of your fucking high horse bitch! By the way Mittlewest GSD's suck. Your dogs ear doesnt even stand, ROFL. The only reason the middlewest name is so big is because they breed so many damn dogs! Nothing but a puppy mill!


Once again a person who won't post to forum but will do a pm message. I saw you at the Sieger Show helping Jen set those puppies up in the heat.

I was in Ohio as a favor to a friend. My puppy who was 7 months old and got his Champion long before your adult dog. I wasn't at the show the next day because I went out to Chicago to train for the Seiger Show which was the next weekend. Everyone there knew I was leaving including you. I have never gotten pissed over any UKC show my puppy didn't win in because he was only there for ring experience in prep for Seiger Show. My husband and I have only ever had Schutzhund Dogs...or dogs in training for Schutzhund. I can't help that my puppy was so wonderful that he wiped the floor with Jen and your dogs and got Champion so fast. Once again he had never been in the ring before and it was just for ring training for Seiger. Too bad for you and Jen that he beat your dogs over and over.

I know Jen is the breeder of your dog..... that would be the dog whose testicle won't drop and Jen has been giving it injections right...totally not impressed. I wonder where Jen is getting the meds from???? I think I'll ask the vet she does grooming for.

Do you eat out of that filthy mouth of yours? You don't deserve to know this.... but my puppy died and not because I shut him in a car in the heat. He was at the Seiger Show and became ill before he made it to the ring. His German Handler was there and looked at him and agreed with me that he should not go in the ring. My husband and I rushed him to a Hospital were they kept him on monitors all night. We were told to get him home ASAP and we left the next morning. He was seen and kept at the top of the line hospital here in Michigan, one that you would not be able to get into. After thousands of dollars I lost my precious puppy...one I loved and cared for and he never had a unhappy day in his life in my care. I surly didn't kill him in a hot car. My puppy's ears were not up when he beat your and Jen dogs as he was teething, your dogs were adults. You feel good about laughing over a poor puppy who died?

Jen runs a puppy mill out of the back of her pick up with dogs that are sub standard which is why you could afford to buy one. Read VNN post ....

You have never been to Mittelwest and you haven't a clue. ... Puppies there are kept in Central Air Conditioned Building, with pens that are large and cleaner than you could imagine. Notice the Air Conditioned part ???? They have Central Heat in the Winter as well. The Adult Dogs are kept in the same manner in another building with very large runs which have Automatic Doors for the dogs best care. They live in conditions that some people would envy. Mittelwest has th

guess I ran out of space so to finish with post from foul mouth Anna Hull.

As I was saying...Mittelwest did not get known for breeding out of a pick up truck.  They grew the business and he dogs are of the highest quality.

I hope for your dogs sake that Jen doesn't kill him with all the testosterone Jen is injecting him with trying to make his testicles fall.  That would be another death on her hands, I know your dog got very ill over those injections.  Is that one of those quality dogs Jen breeds?

With your mail here to me you have shown just what type of people Jen and her 3 friends are like. 

To threathen me is also not too bright.  That high horse you say I'm on.....that is called class dear.

I don't know what happened but what was said on here.
It is very sad for the dogs to suffer like that.

If the dogs were in the heat of the closed truck someone should have stepped up and called the Humane Society
and or had her take the dogs home.

So, whatever the real story is I have a gut wrenching sadness for the dogs.

Someone should of stepped up.