Puppy vs titled dog - Page 2

I much prefer having a dog that I have molded from a puppy. I have seen too many "bought dogs" that had issues. Let's face it: if the dog didn't have issues (including reproduction issues) the Germans/Belgians/Dutch would not be selling it. Period. Perhaps the deficit is something that does not matter to you, or that you feel can be remedied in time. Odds are, though, that the seller may not be forthright about those perceived deficiencies.


Yes, thats what would concern me too Mystere.

Mystere I do see how they could have some problems also, but consider some people have to sell the dogs for other reasons, like financial, or divorce, ect. 

There may be a few dogs sold for those reasons, but most of the imports from Germany/Belgium/Holland are sold for purely MONEY reasons. Otherwise, they'd likely be bought within those countries, especially to club members or their friends.

How about neither?  At least for now.  This is my first post, but have been a lurker on many rainy days.   I think that if one has to ask a messageboard for advice, he/she is a novice and 2 puppies at once is 2 much.  Why not concentrate on the pup you have, title him and when he is on a maintenance schedule, then think about taking on another dog.  If you are looking for a female to breed to your male,  why not wait until your boy is mature and you know what to look for in a suitable mate.  There is more to breeding than parts that fit and pedigrees. 

Anywho, I am one of those fellas that doesn't see the need to get your dog a friend.  He has one. YOU.  If you get another dog, his time with you is cut in half.  How is that better?

My favorite way to buy a dog-

1. Make some phone calls to my friends, mentioning I am looking for a nice dog
2. Go to Germany (take a crate)
3. Rent a car
4. Go look at a lot of nice dogs, in training, spending time with each prospect on and off the field
5. Pick one I think I can really do some good with
6. Negotiate an equitable deal
7. Exchange money for dog and papers
8. Go home and enjoy my new dog for years

SS

Sam Spade in no way was I planning to get my dog a "friend" or breeding partner. I mean he's only 5 months anyway.  And while I don't disagree that I'm a novice I do disagree about the whole asking for advice point to an extent. You can't tell me that people have been doing this for a long time know everything there is to know about the sport, that they can do everything perfectly, Everyones been there, everyones needed help at some point and time or advice. I do behavior training/dog walking around here, but I haven't been to the SchH thing very long. And back to the point of the dog needs a friend. I have three Huskies, if that was my goal he would have plenty of "friends", but he is not allowed play time with them, or interaction. He has met them, but thats it. He goes everywhere with me, and he plays/trains with me. Of course we socialize with people in public, but you see what I'm saying. Not looking to start an argument....lets not start one lol....but maybe you see what I'm saying.

Now Shelly, that sounds like a good way to do it lol. I've always wanted to go to Germany. The majority of my ancestors came from Germany/Austria, I've always wanted to see it. And that would help in seeing the dogs in person instead of videos or pictures that can lie.

My opinion:

                     If your looking to breed at some point and you  have your male alot depends on what your looking for as far as drives, hips, ect... If your looking to improve over some issues you feel you have or the type of litter you are wantting to produce. 

I,m a puppy guy, love to own and raise my own dogs to breed but I have been blessed by the pups I have bought with getting good puppies. Mike Worral and Jessie Gabriel have delivered to me everything I,ve ask for and wantted I,ve also just got a young female bred by Bob Kress which shows tremendous possisilities. The secret (which is no secret) to buying a puppy is not getting in a hurry and do your home work take your time check back grounds previous litters talk to people with simelar lines on drives temperments and health and choose wisely, Although I am a closet  Shelly Strohl(all respect to the wonderful women) fan I believe you can find any dog you want here in the U.S. adult or puppy to fit your needs.

I never believe in the term crap shoot for puppies, If your eyes are closed and you throw money into the air with out knowing which way the winds blowing it,s stupidity not chance.