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ShelleyR

by ShelleyR on 11 March 2009 - 15:03

I wish I had $10 for every spanking I got as a child, every one of them well-deserved. I don't feel like they damaged me in any way. I was damaged goods from the start! LOL
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smartguy1469

by smartguy1469 on 11 March 2009 - 15:03

 Some of us don't choose where we move like for example.....JAPAN! Thanks uncle sam! The military will not allow more than two dogs to come with you. Thats a problem when you have three but I do agree with this post lots of people let there "beloved family members" go way to easily.

dogvoice

by dogvoice on 11 March 2009 - 15:03

Yes, too many let their beloved pets go way too easily.  Take heart though in the knowledge that many cant or wont let them go until they are called to the other side.  I have had to do that a few times and each time I did I cried like a baby.  My brother has gone homeless on a few occasions (not for long) just because they told him he could not keep his dog Maggie with him.  Maggie is a german shephard/malamute/husky mix and is totally devoted to him.  I think it would actually kill her if she got seperated from him for any length of time.  To be honest she thinks she is part human.  She is a great dog but definitely "his dog".  More people need to be that devoted to their dogs after all they truely are a member of their family.

CrysBuck25

by CrysBuck25 on 11 March 2009 - 16:03

This is a reply to Sunsilver's post, above, where it is pointed out that not all animal rescue groups should be lumped with PETA...  My opinion on that is that not one single animal rescue should EVER be lumped with PETA...That's like lumping mass murderers with two year old children...nothing in common at all.  PETA and the HSUS are Animal Liberation Organizations, dedicated (openly or not) to the liberation of enslaved animals from their human slavers, by death if necessary. The words "rescue" and "welfare" are often applied to these organizations, but they are completely incorrect.

Animal rescue groups actually seek to protect, and rehome animals in need. 

With regards to the breeding legislation...Sadly, the puppy mills can generally afford the extra expense of the new regulations better than real breeders can, except for those lucky few who are better off financially.  Puppy mills don't do health screening, don't always get pups vet checked, don't put anything into their dogs as far as training or real housing, and so get  more dollars profit than a real breeder that does put all that into their dogs.  And the really filthy, horrible hoarder/breeders can just start somewhere else once they lose all the dogs they're hurting this time, because they don't care about the law...Keeping a dog in a filthy, excrement coated cage, without proper food, water, and medical care, is already a crime.  We don't need more laws...we just need the ones we already have, enforced.

There was a post on one of these threads mentioning that GSD's are the number one breed dumped in the pound..I'm not sure about those numbers.  Around here, in all the North Idaho, and Spokane, Washington shelters, the majority of dogs you'll find are Labs and lab crosses, out numbered only by Pitt Bulls and crosses.  I was even shocked to see an American Staffordshire Bull Terrier!  I was just in every shelter in our local area, out of curiousity, and was stunned by the number of PItts at the shelter.  And why???

Most were labeled as aggressive, with warnings on the front of the kennels to stay clear.  Dogs standing inside of their kennels, stiff, lips pulled back, deep rumbling from the chest....Looked to me like a simple case of failure to socialize, or perhaps the result of being the visible signs of a young man's machoism.

If a person wants to get a pet to show off their manhood, get a spider, or a scorpion.  Leave the mammals alone.  And for those getting a pup and having young children, I think they need to realize that they are not raising a dog, per se...They are adding another child, at least until the dog reaches adulthood.  If you have two kids, and can't raise, train, and housebreak another, then don't adopt.  The responsibility wouldn't bother me.  Why would someone be afraid of their GSD hurting their new baby?  Haven't they thought about this, during the almost year it takes to have a baby, and done some training to teach the dog to settle down?  Hasn't it occurred to them that the dog should have plenty of exercise, and not just a romp in the backyard?  Ah, well, everyone here knows this, except for Amin of Hans K9, so I'll shut up now..

Besides, I have to get my babies dressed and get to work, where I'm pulling nails out of 6000 feet of reclaimed lumber for someone...Can't wait to get back to my taxes and housework!LOL

Crys

ShelleyR

by ShelleyR on 11 March 2009 - 16:03

.Sadly, the puppy mills can generally afford the extra expense of the new regulations better than real breeders can

Ain't that the truth! Rescues and SPCA's are closing left and right here in PA because they cannot afford to comply with the new stiff kennel construction regulations INTENDED to compromise puppy mills, while the puppy mills continue to thrive, adding to the unwanted dog population everywhere.


There was a post on one of these threads mentioning that GSD's are the number one breed dumped in the pound


Around here its pit bulls, hands down. No 1 breed of the consummate dirt-bag population in the projects. NOT to say all pit-bull owners are dirt-balls, quite the contrary, (we have a super APBT in our training group) but one walk down any inner-city street in PA or any stroll through one of the shelters still in operation, tells a story of its own. 10 pups sold at $50 apiece will keep some folks high all day. Add a few thousand if Killer wins in the pit and its well worth the price of a couple bags of Ole Roy to have a few females in the basement or chained to the spike next to their barrel out back.

So far the local rescues are doing a great job of springing GSD's and re-homing them, but the tough times forecast that situation drawing to a close fast. Monroe county, next to my county, already has NO PLACE for people to dump unwanted animals. People are tying their dogs in cop-shop and veterinarians' parking lots in the dark, sneaking away. Nobody knows what to do as reciprocal favors with other counties dry up. I check Petfinder regularly to see if there is a nice GSD on any local URGENT list, just in case one slips through the cracks, but its hard to see all the other dogs, mixes and purebreds with problems I cannot afford to treat, likely headed for the furnace before week's end.

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ShelleyR

by ShelleyR on 11 March 2009 - 18:03

FREE TO GOOD (?) HOME.


NO BACKS. BEER NOT INCLUDED.

ilovemypoodlefluffy

by ilovemypoodlefluffy on 11 March 2009 - 19:03

i was visiting a friend's mom in a senior citizen building the other day. i mentioned her place was so clean compared to mine. she told me i should get rid of most of my animals (2 dogs, 3 cats, 6 hamsters and 5 rats). she said my daughter emma doesn't need her own dog (that's fluffy the poodle). i said yes she does, she could never handle my shepherd. she said, then get rid of the shepherd. i said no, that's my working dog. she said, really, what kind of work?. i said well she pulls me on the bike and backpacks groceries. she can carry 2 gallons of milk for a mile and a half. actually both dogs work, they are bike pullers. they help get the bike with the cart and my daughter in the back up 4 blocks straight up hill when we go home after being out. she just humphed. then she said get rid of the cats, why do you have 3?  i said because he has had his cat her whole life, as he had her mom, and i have had mine her whole life, since i had her mom (which was a baby kitten when i rescued her, yeah they moved and left her behind) and we had our own cats when we first met, so there was no way we would ever give up either one. his cat is 12 and mine is going on 9. the third cat is emma's and this lady said well emma doesn't need her own cat, get rid of it.
i was very offended but bit my tongue (i do not do well with conflict).
i have one child that i love very much but i would rather have all the animals i do with the mess from cage-cleaning and hair everywhere than to have another child. i just don't have the patience for it.
i believe any animal brought into a family as a pet should be kept for life when possible. i have 5 rats now but once it was 14 or more because the babies didn't sell, and i preferred keeping them myself to dumping them somewhere.
my other half did briefly threaten to bring his cat to the pound, she was peeing on stuff all over the house. we started crating her at nights. she gained some weight back and i realized one day that my cat was chasing her out of the kitchen alot. the crate is in the kitchen with the door open now and his cat goes in there to eat when i crack open the friskies and she has her own private litterbox too. no more peeing on stuff anymore.





 


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