New California mandatory spay/neuter law - Page 3

VomMarischal,
I don't either other than making the phone calls to oppose and educating everyone I know.  I am in Ca. right now and have been telling my daughter and her boy friend (who has sporting dogs) about the dangers of these laws and the profound effect it will have on his dogs.
I think they thought I was worriying about nothing, it will never happen or effect us.  Funny thing happened.  We went into Ca. and parked with one of the dogs in the car, windows down, cool day, water etc for dog while we went into a store.  Came back to the car and someone wrote with mud on the window, " you are a horrible dog owner, and dummy ", on the door.  She was very pissed off, but I think it was an eye opener for her and boy friend.

I never miss an opportunity to explain why my dogs are what they are and the good that they do.  Many walk away with a different view.  I want to help one person ever time I go out with my dogs to understand what real love for them is, what it looks like and what the relationship between man and dog is all about.  I enjoy it and I am confident that many have changed their bleeding heart, empty headed views, and now have some real solid footing in their beliefs.

Hope this helps.

This, of course, will just be another financial blood bath for California between enforcement and law suits.

If they really wanted to make headway on stray dogs and the pound popultaion, there could be sliding scale clinics for poor people to get their pets spayed and neutered.

I have seen mobile clinics that go around to neighborhoods to do low/no cost spay/neuter surgery. 

That would make a huge impact where it is needed.

In the county where I live, they import dogs from surrounding counties because there are more people wanting dogs than there are available here.  Marin County sends planes or air conditioned trucks to bring in dogs from disaster areas.

Maybe they should address the reasons why some areas are littered with strays and other areas have none.  It isn't just money, it is what is in the hearts and minds and social atmosphere.

Michele

 Michele, here in Sacramento, I once got to the Front Street pound before they opened and found a long line. I talked to a woman who told me that she had been driving there looking for a dog for seven days in a row, but if you want one you have to get there early and stand in line. I read a post today in which a young couple were turned down for a dog at the SSPCA because they were too young...22 and 23, and homeowners.  It's no bloody wonder the designer mutt industry is taking off...backyard breeders will give them dogs when the authorities won't. I think rescues must have gone too far backwards...

Olskoolgsds, I think that's the best we can do, educate one person at a time, and it works. The only ones stirring the stuff are the politicians who are dying to have their names heard. They don't care who they hurt as long as they get a law passed.

How can California be so DUMB? 

San Mateo county tried making such laws a number of years ago....resulting in a flood of animals being dumped, to the point to where the county repealed the law because they couldn't cope with the flow of animals being dumped or turned in to the shelters.  Responsible breeders will be responsible without such laws...irresponsible people will not conform to such laws, they will simply discard their animals when the animals become too much trouble or expense to bother with.

http://saveourdogs.net/population.html

There are many examples of how such laws simply DO NOT WORK, and end up causing an  increase in the animal overpopulation problem and other problems

petpac.net

Here's a thought...

Californian, 150 years ago...

The state had no money, no electricity, and there were gunfights in the streets

Pretty much the same now, only then, women had real boobs and the men didn't hold hands.


The government needs to quit finding ways to spend more money and start finding ways to spend less.  If the rest of us have to live on a tight budget, so should they.  If things keep going the way they have, and the economy keeps going down, there's going to be a lot more problems than deciding whether a dog in the back of my truck is being abused or not.

I believe that we the people need to get a bit more aggressive, like our GSD friends, and say "NO MORE".  This is OUR country, and we won't stand for any more micro-management. 

I agree with the poster up above that stated that politicians need to be spayed and neutered.  But add to that the welfare bums, and a few others, and I think we might have a fighting chance.  Just my opinion...

Crys

 UPDATE

CHAKO met with Senator Florez office Tuesday to discuss our concerns with this bill. We are urging ALL people  - and especially those who live in District 16 -- (Senator Florez's constituents, more info at end of email) -- to write Senator Florez and tell him you oppose SB 250 as currently written.

We advice stating that you do believe the bill is too narrow and impinges on the rights of responsible dog owners. In particular, we urge you to state the bill needs to:

1.  Exempt service dogs and service dogs in training, 
2. Remove language that allows them to revoke your unaltered dog language based on what you put on your license application (i.e., material misrepresentation of fact or omission of fact)
3. Make provisions for breeds like Rottweilers that are known to have significant health risks from early spay/neuter
4. Do away with the provision that allows two complaints from your neighbor to be cause for the unaltered license to be denied or revoked
5. Do away with the provision that allows them to revoke all your unaltered dog licenses if you have failed to license ANY dog.
6. Change the following language: "Operating a business involving the subject dog or cat without a license or state tax ID number" so that businesses that merely use a dog as a "mascot" don't get hit by this.
7. Do away with broad and vague language like "failure to take care of noisy animals." What does that mean, anyway. How does someone take proper care of noisy animals and how would that care differ from that of quiet animals?
8. Remove language that grants animal control officials/officers broad discretion to discriminate against dog owners or breeds they personally dislike.
9. A

 " Exempt service dogs and service dogs in training, "

For what it's worth, you're far better off fighting this turkey entirely.  You let them pass mandatory spay neuter and they WILL get rid of the exceptions.  Oh, and aren't service dogs usually spayed/neutered as a matter of course?  Service dog, meaning a dog that helps the handicapped.  Watch the way you word your proposals very, very carefully.

Tell them to offer low cost or free spay/neuter, and to enforce the lowly leash law if they want to "do something" about problem animals.

Have you lost your mind, It all needs to go! Once they get a foot hold, you ,ight as well hand them your dogs!

The state needs to be sued for damage to property and loss of income. It's sad to reduce it to such a level but perhaps it's a level the state would then understand.