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by VomMarischal on 27 February 2009 - 17:02
This bill was written only a couple days ago. All the exceptions you are talking about are from the old law, which was pretty much ok depending on which county you were in...In my county, an unneutered fee is $150; they all make up different rules. So everything you were told is about to go by the wayside. Oh...did you notice that police and show dogs are not exempt?
Here's what my bf had to say:
"These people obviously don't have anything more important to do than create more government! CA is drowning in this kind of crap, you don't need more. Where in that bill did it address breeding animals and what constitutes a breeding animal and who is going to judge an animal fit for breeding purposes? And there is not enough money in the state to regulate all this crap. The people who want to comply will, the rest won't, voluntary compliance!
The bill is poorly written, just a pile of crap. How are they going to enforce this thing?"
What he means by "voluntary compliance" is that laws they can't possibly enforce just come down to some people obey them and some don't. It amounts to guidelines that conscientious people think they have to follow and criminals figure out a way around. It means that craigslist.org and the pound will still be full of designer mutts and throwaway purebreds. But people who try to breed police dogs are in trouble...a combination of this stupid law and that thing of imported dogs having to go thru brokers...that will pretty much mean that all police dogs in California will have to be expensive imports (and then have to be neutered when they arrive!). Even the ones born here will have significantly raised prices, IF people can get a permit to raise them. Gee, will there even be Schutzhund in CA if this passes? It'll be seriously restricted when we HAVE to get our dogs neutered; I mean, how many clubs do you know where all the dogs are neutered? Seems really weird! And I don't even know any schutzhund people who are irresponsible owners. I do know OF some, via gossip, but 99% of us in the sport take excellent care of our dogs and rarely let them out to breed with pit bulls or collies. So how does restricting us even pay off????
by ShelleyR on 27 February 2009 - 18:02
Sad, but this is the way its going to go from now on. Aren't you glad the liberals are in power in so many places and running the country theses days?
I will post another swell side-effect of Dog Laws here in PA creating hardships in another thread when I get time.
SS
by VomMarischal on 27 February 2009 - 23:02
I'm pretty liberal myself. I don't see how this shit is liberal at ALL.
by BabyEagle4U on 28 February 2009 - 01:02
I for one, will always take my dogs with me every where I go in a vehicle. I think it's cruel not to take them bye-bye's. If this is the stuff we have to deal with, I'll be campaingin' to allow dogs in ALL stores and public places. LMAO
Ya, I'm Liberal too sometimes.
by olskoolgsds on 28 February 2009 - 02:02
Most empty headed people will read these bills and say to them selves, "Gee, this sounds soooo good, so humane, so kind and compassionate." Most do not have the insight to read between the lines, take the time to read them objectively, and look at the potential problems with that will follow.
For example, who makes the decision what is clean, what is safe, what is healthy, what is .....................................................
Keep in mind that the President of the SPCA says that "any dog that shows ribs is starving". And that is coming from someone in a position to do lots of harm.
In this life, one has to read everything from warrenty's to rules to proposals for new laws with the utmost scrutiny. These simply are not times in which we can afford to trust our politicians, animal activist groups, or any other group that has the power to effect our lives.
I am a respecter of laws and rules. I support and obey, but if these laws start passing, I may become a law breaker, and I hate to say that.
by Pharaoh on 28 February 2009 - 03:02
I am liberal in the classical definition as described by Frederic Hayek in "The Road to Serfdom". It is a very hard book to read but it is the most brilliant book on Economics and post WWII civilization. He is/was one of the smartest men who has ever lived.
Sadly, his book is coming true at this time as he predicted.
Michele
by CMFarm on 28 February 2009 - 15:02
by 1doggie2 on 01 March 2009 - 01:03
Bump, now is not the time to sit on yor hands.
My dogs will be really ticked if they can not go for car rides, If I do not take all of them and leave one or 2 behind, I have some very loud screaming and I mean scream (they could Do Friday the 13th proud). The Gsd's are high pitched will break your ear drumb, the rottie can make the windows rattle with his howl. Please take pitty on me and sign!!!!
I know workmen who put the dogs in the trucks to protect their tools.
by VomMarischal on 01 March 2009 - 04:03
by msdraglox on 01 March 2009 - 17:03
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