feeding raw - Page 3

Good subject

I gave my pack raw chicken leg quarters, I steam cleaned all the carpets, I washed all the floors, I steam cleaned all the carpets again.

I gave my pack kibble with raw chicken treats, I had loose poops all over the yard.

I gave my pack Chicken Soup for the Dog Lover's Soal and dogs are happy, carpets are clean and yard doesn't stink to high heaven.............

I will try to feed raw again, but not for a while.

I have been recently introducing raw to my boy at one year... and bringing it back to my little girl at 7 months with success. She ate a lot of raw till she was 13 weeks old and I was scared of it so I took her off of it. He always ate a cooked diet but I never had good luck with his stools... and I went nuts feeding him all kinds of things... which was mostly my issue. He has had Pano act up  twice on different legs.

I am feeding them chicken necks, legs, or thighs every other day as a snack... and raw marrow or split knuckle bones once or twice a week. I feed them a 1/4 cup of cottage cheese or yogurt and a 1/4 cup of pumpkin puree with their quality kibble twice a day and they have nice firm stools for the first time!

After watching the two dogs... one raised on raw... the other not... I might would suggest to go with raw... I know I am exploring it with good results and going to continue!

I was going to introduce internals next week... but now I think I might wait another couple of weeks! Thanks Snajper69!

Best,
Jacob, Rama and Akeelah

To the original question:

You gave him too much (per meal) of puppy food that probably had puppy formula that stimulates growth, protein etc... and he grew too much too fast - hence panosteitis.

it comes and goes, but with MOST dogs,it should kind of resolve itself,go away and not come back any time afterwards. If he is 10 months, it may happen onece or twice more and then be gone for good. Cut off the protein to a degree and it may notcome back again, hard to say. But again, pano should resove itself after the puppyhood is over 12-15monthsof age and NOT come back.

Regarding raw. Frozen meat should not be given. If given, will the dog eat it? Hell yeah. Is it bad for him? Well, no, but it should not be given frozen. Also, it should NOT BE thawed in a microvave. Have a plan and thaw it in the fridge or kitchen counter overnight, it will thaw just fine that way. Microwave should not be used for humans or for dogs, but oh well, people are people.

Regarding WHAT raw should be given question: Anything from turkey legs, turkey wings, turkey necks, chicken legs,chicken wings,chicken drumsticks,whole chicken, chicken necks, ground beef, venison, meaty beef bones, beef ribs and so on. Vegetables could be given too shredded or pulpfrom the blender), alfalfa, cod liver oil, salmon oil, garlic in any quantity (not every meal), hardboiled eggs, plain nonfat yoghurt... and so on and so on. If you google feeding raw, there is pnelty of info out there on the internet and many sites about what to feed, how and how much.

The dog shold eagerly clean it all up like a Hoover vacuum cleaner. If you do not want to feed all raw, you can combine everything I said above in smaller quantities over a bed of kibble that you already have been using.

Welcome to the raw feeders club! It's a good place to be and your dog will thank you for it and love it.

I would just caution against feeding marrow bones. I used to do this until one of my dogs broke two teeth on them. Like any of the weight bearing bones in the larger animals they are extremely hard, and our dogs don't have the strong teeth that wolves have, in order to break them down. A knuckle bone for recreational chewing once in a while is OK.............

I feed raw eggs, not hard boiled, and have never had a problem. In addition to most of what Adi mentions I also feed fish twice a week, though not raw (salmon, sardines packed in water and Jack (not King) mackerel. ) That replaces the raw meaty bone evening meal.............. I use pumpkin infrequently even though my dogs love it (high in fiber, can cause the runs), and I only give vegetables a few times a week, always pureed (dogs have a short digestive tract and aren't able to break down the cellulose the way people can.)  Organ meat also (liver, kidney) but this should be no more than 10% of the entire diet......

www.b-naturals.com is a good place to start - look in the newsletter section for raw feeding info. If you want to combine kibble and raw until you feel more comfortable, there are recipes for that too. Good luck - it's a lot of fun! Variety is the key though - don't fixate on one thing.