HOLY LINEBREEDING, BATMAN! - Page 2

WAY too close for me !  I wonder if  the pedigree is incorrect, some on here are.....

Whoa, everyone!  I am the owner and accidental breeder of this pup.  I absolutely do not condone, recommend or think any breeding this close should ever be done.  The female was at the end of her season, I thought completely out and her brother bred her.  Total accident.  2 months later, she had milk and a pup. Total shock, even the vet said it should not have taken.  If I had been trying with two normal correct ones to breed, the breeding never would have taken. 

Luckily, there was only one pup and I have the ability to keep all my dogs good, bad and indifferent.  That being said, so far this pup is super in everyway, drive, temperament, inteligence, appears to have all the equipment.  Time will tell on hips and elbows.  No matter what he has a home and will never be sold.  I do not sell dogs and I do not breed.  There are just too many dogs in the world and way too many never find good homes.

It was ironic that this happened because I am the one the chides everyone about that they must title, Koer, show, x-ray hips and elbows, DNA  their dogs before they ever breed - meaning be responsible breeders.  Again I do not recommend breeding like this to anyone.

The other ironic part of this is that AKC has no registration restrictions on a dog inbred.  This pup can receive AKC papers ergo FCi recognized papers. We just have no breeding restrictions with our FCI recognized registry.  Not good for the dogs and their health.

As another point of interest, the reason  DNA became a requirement with the SV is that many famous Kennels bred dogs like this, brother to sister, mother to son etc.  It just was not a heathly practice.  It took several generations in one famous line to eradicate hemphilia

So, no, no one should breed like this.  It was a total accident ergo the name "AccI".  I am fortunate and so is he that it appears he inherited all the good genes so far.  The bloodlines are all "nice" working lines but not "extreme" working lines.  None the less, he will remain in his birth home for life no matter what and of course will never be bred!  Sorry to throw everyone with my putting him on the database, I really did it for my friends that have seen him and remark what a neat pup he is.  There is no way he should have turned out this nice except dumb luck.  I do not recommend anyone taking this chance though.

WOW!

He doesn't look like a snail.........

He actually looks pretty normal...........

Love to see how he grows, sometimes it can give you a top dog,

But sometimes it can give you a not so top dog.......

I thought this was an accidental breeding.It does some times happen.

NOTHING THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE IN GERMANY, BELGIUM AND OTHER COUNTRIES AND HERE IN USA MANY TIMES.    MANY TIMES  HIDDEN AND NOT KNOWN UNTIL   DNA CAME INTO BEING...THAT IS WHY DNA IS IMORTANT.

YR

Kim, thanks for that,  and good luck with his hip etc.

The pup looks good but there are to many great dogs out there to linebreed that close.

Edit: Ok just caught on that this was an accident. Great...glad to know people arent doing this on purpose!

Breeder of said pup, no one has chastised you, we were just curious...glad to know it was an accident.

The reason I posted this was because I was curious why a breeding along these lines would PURPOSLY be done, but seeing as it was an accident, mystery solved! Thanks for clearing that up for us, sorry if you felt anyone was chastising you.

That is another irony regarding the DNA.  If I was an unscupulous breeder, I could have easily subsituted a different mother and father on papers!  AKC does not check litters when you are a few times breeder! 

I was told by people who do breed and saw the Kennels in Germany who did this that the pups were either a catastophe or once in awhile a good one emerged for no good reason.  That is the danger of this pup every being a good dog, because someone will think it is a good idea and do it and 99.9999% of the time it is a catastrophe.  And then its the poor animal that suffers with health problems and subsequent generations. 

Always do your homework when buying a dog especially in countries where there is no DNA etc. breeding requirements.