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animules

by animules on 23 July 2008 - 17:07

What Sue said, a person reaches the point buying with all the gaurantees shouldn't make your decission.  The last pup I bought was from Germany so guarantees, etc, sure wouldn't have meant much.  Didn't need them anyway as her hips and elbows are fine.


Mystere

by Mystere on 23 July 2008 - 17:07

I agree with Sue: the breeder's knowledge and background, as well as a relationship with the breeder are paramount.

ConnecticutK9

by ConnecticutK9 on 23 July 2008 - 18:07

Guarantees from breeders dont really mean much and the breeders know it. If someone buys a dog and it developes a health problem down the road, the people are so attached that they will not give up the dog. That is why most breeders put in the contract that the dog has to be returned for a replacement.


by AKVeronica60 on 23 July 2008 - 18:07

A lot of breeders do not ask for the dog back.  I don't. Veronica


MVF

by MVF on 23 July 2008 - 19:07

A guarantee is a legal contract.  If the individual signed the contract (and not as an officer of the business), then they are liable as long as they are still alive.  Take the defunct breeder to court if s/he doesn't respond to your inquiries.

 

 


AhSighEE

by AhSighEE on 23 July 2008 - 19:07

ConnecticutK9 expressed the general consensis here today as I just learned that one well known breeder who posts on this site regularly defending breeding of faulty lines and pups, just sent by air cargo a pup to a customer in California, a male pup with a large hernia which the customer knew the puppy had a hernia,(a small one) and of all the surprise when dog bounced out of crate,was that this puppy has large spayed , flate feet. Am not talking about just flat feet, big flat feet.

Customer is in shock,but has fell in love with the dogs temperament and the vet agrees,this pups has major faults, but can be operated on and start foot work . HA HA HA Vet suggested get off puppy food and go on high protein and things for calcium malnutrition. Yikes, probably Science diet which vets love to sell all people who know not better.

Now for the big , horrible , ticket to the moon:  This person paid $2,500.00 for this puppy.

Breeder says, Oh, well , yes dog has hernia can be fixed, and Oh, feet dont matter for Schutzhund and using puppy for protection in your home. 

This breeder ought to be tarred and feathered with a hernia bag and hang chicken leggs on his front door in my opinion.

Will it ever stop. No as long as people dont do something about it and refuse to accept a pup like that , send it back and demand full refund. Buy next pup with sight only and if have to use airlines, make sure reputation is iron clad and the breeder writes , it you are in any way , unhappy , return dog in 48 hours for full refund or if you prefer another pup of your chosing. Would that worK????????   $2,500.00 for  a pet only quality gsd?

What would you do in this case?  Not posting to bash breeder as it is being decided what to do on the owner end. Nothing is for sure yet. I just found out about this , today, and saw this thread and it sure was fitting to tell about and get some incide opinions.

 

 


ConnecticutK9

by ConnecticutK9 on 23 July 2008 - 20:07

My point wasnt to bash breeders as i have dealt with some great breeders, especially lately while looking for my new dog, but just way too many that have no ethics in the dog world. A few breeders that i have spoken to will give a partial refund. Like anything else...do your research

 

Mark


by Sam1427 on 24 July 2008 - 05:07

There are no guarantees in life, period. If you want a champion show dog or performance dog, buy a titled adult and get the papers with the dog. If you buy a puppy, you have no way of knowing exactly how he's going to turn out even if you do research his bloodlines and see his parents. He might be the one show puppy with fantastic drive in the litter, or he might be the one OFA poor or SV NZ dog in the litter.  He might be perfectly healthy for 4 years then develop immune system problems. Don't pay more for a puppy than you can afford to lose. There is simply no guarantee with animals (or people, for that matter.) 

Supply and demand rules: if people are willing to pay a high price, breeders will ask a high price. Shop around for a reasonable price and a good pedigree. Pedigree isn't a guarantee but it's better than a shot in the dark with a BYB. Look for track records by searching this messageboard and others for mention of the breeder, but take undocumented accusations with a grain (or handful) of salt.

For contracts, check with a contract lawyer to see if you have a valid and enforceable contract and if it is worth going to court to sue the breeder to get some of your money back if the breeder if out of the dog business. You may be able to file in small claims court which you can do yourself, or you may have to file in district court in which case you will likely need a lawyer to guide you through the many rules and regulations.


Two Moons

by Two Moons on 24 July 2008 - 06:07

A fool and his money.

If it seems to good to be true.

Hold out one hand and spit in the other.

Any of this sound familiar?

Option's? 

How much money does a good lawyer cost?

Is there such a thing as a good lawyer?

How many time's does one get burnt before they learn not to touch the stove?

I've been burnt, joint the club and try to learn from it.

Wise up and try not to whine.

SSDD.

 






 


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