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by eichenluft on 12 March 2008 - 19:03

I won't have any problems selling the  Laika puppies - they are super, and not only because the sire is an Olex son :)

It's really all about warning people who want to find an Olex puppy in this country or breed to him, that he is not producing, so be very careful.  I hope your puppies are proven to be Olex puppies, and hope they turn out super!   Hope your friends are not out the stud fee my friends were - and hope they get the litters they plan on as well.

 

molly


Diane

by Diane on 12 March 2008 - 23:03

Molly, there must be a full moon today because the board is certainly full of catfights!   I don't wish to get to that level and have no personal issues with you at all, other than having you call my breedings into question (and I definitely take offense to that).  My litters are AKC registered and you are basically slandering me (I'm using that term loosely, not in a legal sense) by implying that I falsified my litter registrations with Olex as the sire, since you claim he is infertile.  I guess that's one of the reasons we have DNA testing available and once the results are back, you will be proven wrong.  There's not much more I can do before that other than argue back and forth.  I prefer to use good solid science to prove you wrong and as I said before, I will post the DNA results right here on this thread for all to see as soon as I get them.  I have no doubts who sired my litters, but I also have no problem backing my words with proof.  Fact is easily proven, and that's exactly what will happen when the DNA results are  posted.  If you really enjoy arguing about it, I'll play your game but I would hope we both have better things to do with our time!

One other thing.  Molly, you say you have friends who used Olex and are owed stud fees.  If those people used Olex when Wayne had him, that has nothing to do with me or Olex's production since leaving Wayne's.  I know nobody has paid a stud fee other than the 4 breedings I've already mentioned since Olex has been in KY, and none of those people are friends of yours.  (There may be current breedings not yet confirmed, but those wouldn't be included in your comments since the owners don't yet know if their females are pregnant).  Please clarify you are talking about breedings that took place when Wayne had him, if that's the case.  If you claim to know people who used Olex while in KY, have them post their cancelled checks or I don't believe they exist!  You ask for proof, so you should be prepared to provide it as well.

Regards,

Diane


Diane

by Diane on 12 March 2008 - 23:03

I want to end on a pleasant note here.  One of my favorite sayings is that "life is too short to waste time being miserable", so I would like to say something nice to you, Molly.  I think you've done a very fine job with Eagle and have achieved great success with him.  You are to be commended for that!  I've always found him to be a handsome dog and would like to congratulate you on your accomplishments with him and wish you continued success in the future (I know you've retired Eagle, but am sure you'll have other dogs to work).  I've enjoyed going back and forth with you today and hope you will admit you were wrong when the DNA results are posted.  No hard feelings either way.  Life is simply too short to be miserable!

I bet you and I can fully agree on that, right?

Best regards,

Diane Seaman


by eichenluft on 13 March 2008 - 00:03

Sure thing.  I will apologize right now - I am very sorry, my original post was not intended to include your litters.  It was intended to be a simple "heads up" and "good luck finding an Olex puppy" message.  Because - 4 puppies in 3+ years from more than a few females - there are no puppies being produced for "whatever" reason.  And as I said before - what a shame, Olex should be producing in this country, he would be an asset to the breed and to any breeding program.  Diane, you are very lucky to have Olex puppies, I would keep them all if I were you.  I would also get them DNA tested anyway, just so people like me don't question when the stats are known to not be in favor of Olex siring litters in the last few years.  If I were interested in one of your puppies, I would pay for the test myself.  And as I also already said, I hope they do prove Olex to be the sire!  I hope your Olex puppies turn out fantastic and make you proud.

molly

 


Diane

by Diane on 13 March 2008 - 00:03

Thank you, Molly! 

Diane


SchHBabe

by SchHBabe on 13 March 2008 - 16:03

Well, Tia, it sounds as if you're SOL unless you can persuade Diane to sell one of her Olex pups.  (I wouldn't hold my breath on that).   It sounds like the ol' man is shooting blanks more often than not, so perhaps you could find some grandsons or granddaughters if you're set on getting his blood.

Good luck and happy hunting!

Yvette


by D.H. on 13 March 2008 - 18:03

Do you people get some sort of sick kick from tarnishing the legacy of yet another great dog on the database all the time? SchHbabe, where does it say that Olex is shooting blanks more often than not? Or it is fact now just because Molly says so?   Proof has been requested, but none provided. I find that is a very sensible and a very reasonable request though. I would like to see a single person come forward to provide proof of what has been alleged here. And I want Molly to provide proof of all that she is claiming. Anything. No more tall tales. Something tangible. And please, no signeduptodaymysteriousanonymous posters. But real names, contact infos and facts. I.e.: My name is Buffy McMuffy of Mightyville, USA. My GSD female Fluffy vom Haus Superpoochie was bred on these and these and these dates to Olex. There were no pups from that breeding and we are owed a stud fee or a free repeat breeding which the owner has refused us and we have proof of all that.   Bring proof! 

by Nikos on 13 March 2008 - 19:03

I was told Olex is owned by some guy named Jonathan Richard; i inquired about the same topic some time ago, and the lady above, Seaman, emailed me for him.

i never got proof, just a bunch of pretty scary emails from breeders in the u.s. and elsewhere advising me to stay away from olex and his owner; thought the whole thing sounded weird; for whatever reason not too many people are fond of the guy; from "d-bag to scammer, to drunk.".. you name it; never heard anything about the guy; these are people that usually post on the website and have reputable kennels in the u.s.; also major dog importers...

Richards wrote me directly briefly but did not make a lot of sense.  The whole thing about that dog i concluded is a bunch of crap gossip. It is unfortunate that he can't produce anymore but may be serving just to inflate someone's ego.

like many others i see what olex has produced elsewhere - germany and the czech rep. and i was interested in one of his progeny; hence my logical interest,

n.


by bicolor on 13 March 2008 - 19:03

 

I hope for Diane's sake the breeding is Olex, maybe they used frozen sperm which is fine, but if wayne curry (the biggest crook out here in WA) had the dog for about a year I would have thought he would be selling Olex sired pups for big $$$$$$$

 

I tink someone must have shoved a broomstick up DH's ass, or maybe she is just sensitive about people who get scammed, like the folks who are going after her for missing paperwork. Which state are they taking you to court in?


by D.H. on 13 March 2008 - 19:03

Bicolour,
posts from anonymous posters are absolutely worthless! You clearly have no facts to contribute. Wayne did not have Olex for a year for starters. And why should a post about Olex be about me? Please post these supposed court dates so that we can all go and watch, somewhere else.

Nikos,
again, I asked for facts, something tangible. Not more of this heresay. When people have what others want it breeds contempt. And all I see here is a lot of that and little else. Your comment is mostly based on other people's ill will and something you were confused about. Again, no real facts.






 


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