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by germanguy on 28 January 2008 - 23:01

It brings a memory to this. My old sch 3 9 years age hated my wife. He would stare to her eyes all the time. He was good in his training around her but in his flat he would stare to her eyes. I would never let herr train him because he new she afraid of his. With your experience I would not breed him with no exams and get a softer puppy to work. Keep your face far from his face also! Where I am from no clickers or dog on the beds. I could show you how to work him but only you can change the opinion of you in his head.  You see a dom dog has a boiling point I call it putting the pressure to him. Its his threshhold on the pressure he can take. First a growl then a bite. Then after he acts. he gets punished then he knows that you are boss. A serious correction is taken seriously. Bibs and boots is worn and be seroius but dont abuese. He will be acting tough and loud but be strong and no scared. If fails put him in his flat for a week no inside time. Take him out to train only or ball. Put him right back after. Let him know you are leader. Can you ntake food from him? Probably not. once he knows you are boss you first he second. Good luck Best Regards


Khayem

by Khayem on 29 January 2008 - 00:01

Hi Grammashorty,

you need to change your relationship with this dog. As everyone says, he has no respect for you, probably because he gets what he wants when he wants it.

You need to remove all access to toys, play and food and only allow him access to them controlled by you. I would put him on NILIF straight away - Nothing In Life Is Free - he must work for food, play and toys, everything good comes from you. You should see a change in attitude within a week or so if you are doing it right. Hand feed him, dont feed him from a bowl or free feed him, but he must do something for each piece of food - sit, drop, watch you etc. Allow him time to play but when YOU have had enough and before he has, remove the toy and put him away/go inside the house and leave him alone.

NILIF protocol sets boundaries for the dog - at present he is setting them and this needs to change. It puts you in control and you will start to feel better about your dog and your relationship will improve. Just Google NILIF for more information.

Good luck.

 

 

 

 


by wscott00 on 29 January 2008 - 00:01

gramma,

here is the gods honest truth. all the sending the dog out for training the world wont help.  you can send him to 10 different trainer and he will learrn to respect them all.  but as soon as you bring him home it will return.  you need to find a way to make him respect if not fear you.  until then you will always have a problem.

with holding his toys is nothing more than negotiating w/ him.  Lets look at it this way.  dogs growl as a warning, so if he does want you near his food he will growl..if you stop going near his food then he has then learned that aggression gets him what he wants. 

DO NOT under any circumstance think that by sending him off for aggression training your problem will be solved. it will only masked for a while.  I suggest you have some on teach you how to deal w/ the problem.  Chances are you will be left w 2 choices 1. give up the dog or 2. do things you most likely dont agree w.

im speaking from experience....  best of luck to you


Uber Land

by Uber Land on 29 January 2008 - 01:01

I used to own this male http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/126260.html

this was an extremely hard, very dominate male.  produced tons of drive in his puppies.  But he had very low respect for women. I found out shortly after bringing him home that he had put his previously handler in the hospital.  and to top everything off, I am 5'4" and was 23 at the time.  Well, we had our differences and I tried giving him space etc.  but it came to the point where He had to be muzzled and we had to work out our differences.  He did learn to respect me, but was older and much set into his ways.  He never really warmed up to any one, but did respect me to where we didn't have any problems with each other.

I am a FIRM believer when it comes to your dogs, you must maintain NILIF (nothing in life is free) just like someone else stated.  you can not treat them as if they are little babies. I have had MANY people bring dogs to my house and the dog is basically a spoiled brat and always gets its way.  they need boundaries and rules.


tighe

by tighe on 29 January 2008 - 04:01

This is Hannibal von Bruiser?  This dog is byb, over standard, not even 2 so more than likely doesn't have hip certs yet..... and on top of that you are having an issue with his temperament and you needed him back to breed your female?

::sigh::

 


yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 29 January 2008 - 05:01

tighe:   where did you get his  name?


yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 29 January 2008 - 05:01

who is this dog out of?    wouldnt be   Bastins Bruiser vom Wolfhaus would it?   If it is , the apple doesnt fall far from the tree......


AgarPhranicniStraze1

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 29 January 2008 - 05:01

grammashorty-  It's important you take the advice of the above posters before someone gets hurt.  My mother in law has been training dogs for really 30 yrs.  She had a training facility and she specialized in helping people work through dog agression issues.  Some people she was able to help, some dogs did modify their behavior but some couldn't.  This is not gonna be an easy fix for you unfortunately but if you are that attached to the dog you should really try to overcome your fear of the dog BUT with the presence of an experienced trainer who can intervene if the dog gets wild.

I had a dominant dog ONCE, he started about the age your GSD did but he was not a GSD he was an AKITA (probably much worse), he bit me one time without real justification.  I tried to take a box of cough drops from him before he ate them all and got sick. He bit me and then proceeded to challenge me in a fight when I yelled at him and reached to correct him.  After that I was affraid of him, he knew it and took full advantage of it;  affraid to have him in my home with my baby at the time and I never bothered to even try to take him for training to "fix" him.  As far as I was concerned this was not the dog for me, I could not handle him, trust him and therefor he served me no purpose.  I placed him with an Akita rescue and he later found a more suitable home with a single guy, experienced in the breed and training and the 2 were a good match.

The point of me sharing this story with you is that your dog should be your loyal loving companion.  You wouldn't have a friend you could not trust, or a spouse, so why put up with a dog that you have to sleep with one eye open with??  He's not a dog to breed.  Please DO NOT breed this dog as it's clear he does not portray the temperment GSD lover's desire. 

Have you had him since he was a puppy or is this a dog you acquired as an adult dog?


rus

by rus on 29 January 2008 - 08:01

 

grammashorty wrote: "I took him back to the trainer the next day for aggression training and he's doing pretty good with the trainer."

Of course he is! Why shouldn`t he?! He is a clever GSD and he sees that the trainer doesn`t collect dogs like teddies like you do! The trainer respects the dogs and so he trains them! It`s a pity but I am afraid you are not the kind of person to understand this or anything of this kind... Poor dominant doggie of your!.. His life is going to be a nightmare from now on.

 

grammashorty wrote: "I will not sell him because he's a beautiful dog..." Then put some mud on him (he won`t be so beautiful then!) and give him to a CLEVER person as a present!


by targo01 on 29 January 2008 - 10:01

On another post you were talking about selling your last puppy, is this pup from the same female you are breeding right now. Did you give your female a break between litters?

What is the temperment of the bitch? Was your male the sire of the last litter? How was the temperment of the puppies?






 


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