Out-crossing GSD with other breeds - Page 13

He He.  Abhay, Abhay.  Don't you remember that you are older than me?  Don't you remeber asking me to name the time and place to meet with you so that you could kick my butt?  I said E. 93rd and Kinsman in Cleveland, and you chickened out, saying the I had "powers".  You were actually the one that first called ma a hero sort of (super-hero with "powers").  Ha Ha.  You are just funny Capt,  er, ah, I mean, Abhay.  I will be happy to post your email to me, just as soon as you post that pick of you in front of those "doomed to be PTS untill you saved them" 60 plus dogs that you care for in your spare time, in between running around the world body guarding pro boxers.  Sounds like a fair trade, don'tcha think ole fart?  But remember, I can always back up my claims with evidence, you have never been able to.  Not once.

Did you miss the  "I was kidding with the "back atcha:" part.  Do you think that maybe I would not have said the kidding part, if I was serious about having deleted it.  Man, are you scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to get anything on me.

Har Har Har Har Har.  Just too darn funny. 

Now, let's trade pics.  Your 60 plus rescued dogs with you and a cureent newspaper, for my copy of your email, headers and all.  I say that you are a liar and it will not happen.  Yes, I am calling you a liar again, to your face (at least as close as I can get to it given your anonymous status and unwillingness to follow through on your threats).  Prove me wrong and the world will know it.  Do not prove me wrong and the world will know it.  No wait.  I see it coming.  You won't because I have "powers".  Har Har Har Har.  LMFAOAAA

Go away little man.

you are a little frail bag of bullshit Mr. Hankey. E 93rd and Kinsman? yea right.  You travel to me wimp... Want some? come get some!

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS222US222&q=E%2e+93rd+and+Kinsman+in+Cleveland

AHAHAHAHA " Young men.........It's fun to stay at the YMCA......"  I forgot about the Village People, Thanks for the memories!

  Now I see them dancing to the song running through my head!   

Ya'll are late to the party.  We went through this joke way back when.  It might have been 4pack (I don't remember who it was) that stated she was laughing, thinking about me in my cop outfit doing the YMCA bit, to the song.  Oh well, better late than never.

I thought it was funny too.

I think that song is a classic, and a good one.  As well done and catchy as the one by Johnny Cash entitled "A Boy Named Sue".  Another classic.

Please, I beg of ya'll.  If you are a male, please do not picture me wearing my cop uniform, dancing in your head.  That would give me the chills.  I understand the reasons some would want to do that, but choose some else.  I don't go there.  Sorry.

If you are a women, have at it.  I am glad to give you a thrill. 

By the by, the YMCA in my town is a very nice, clean, and healthy (you get a free membership if you even only work there a few hours a month) place to work.  The problems being that they don't pay much, do not provide medical insurance to part time employees and sometimes it can be boring (summer months) as not many go there in the summer.

This is ridiculous. He has bugged out because I had the NERVE to post on the same thread after more experienced people had the nerve to disagree with him. Please all, look at my initial posts and tell me I did anything to him. I am tired of these things and I try to add to threads and he starts with all of this. I have not thrown first stones. I have tried very hard to ignore the baits he has posted out of the blue on other threads after our "blowout". He has had the majority of his posts deleted so people can't go back and compare his statements then and now. Unfortunately I found that he cannot be spoken to reasonbly without cracking up and I got baited into this whole thing.

At the time he sent that pm I offered to send it to anyone who asked. And I did. You can see it on the I can't believe your all so forgiving thread. Which is also a random piece of nastyness worth starting a whole thread over. He's classic oppositional defiant and obviously all those spankings didn't have much effect.

I know I have baited him in the past and I have stated my beliefs about his history very clearly but have not brought them up in the spirit of wanting no more of these things.

Every thread he posts on ends up with hatefulness to some one.

. Even after I bowed out of this he has kept referrencing me and things I've said in the past. He doesn't only bait. He is cruel and hateful. At times he has referred  referred to so many of the things I have said on long ago threads many of them where I had spoken of my son who is mentally retarded. So he makes it a point to be hateful about it in most of the threads addressed to me   "another retarded old saying, that IS meant to be negative).  I realize this word (which is devasting to those sweet and loving people who are mentally retarded and those who love them) is commonly, casually used all the time.  By the freaquency of his use of this word in the above manner when addressing me it's obvious that it is a way to hurt me in the only way he can. Through my son. But since he has erased his posts (so he can't be quoted) it will be his contention that he never did.

I made a joke yes. Just as the other part of that post was joking with Sue about the statement about Sue and I and he was nasty with 4 pack even though she wasn't even involved in the discussion.

This is all his way of controlling who can speak on a thread (and yes I was clearly addressing the topic of the thread when he became nasty) and whether me or anyone else can disagree with him.

I am trying to put all the absudity of our past spats behind us. He won't.

I'm not going to respond to anymore hateful baits on this thread. But I will not be driven from any posts because he is defensive and sees disagreement from me or anyone else as a battle and a win/lose situation instead of a debate of ideas.

Abhay.  What is the prupose of your link?  When you stated on a previous thread that I would be afraid to go into a bad neighborhood and meet you so that you could kick my arse, and you told me (if I remember correstly) to pick a time and place.  I chose E. 93rd and Kinsman as it is one of the worst in Cleveland, and I named a time and date.  Even though you stated that you would travel to "whereever" to meet me and kick my arse.  Well, as soon as I posted a time and place, you said you couldn't do it because I would obviously have my friends with me (as if that would ever scare a big tough guy like you), and besides, I have "powers".  LMFAOAAA

Don't come on here and challenge me to come to you if you don't say when and where.  It kinda makes it a little difficult.

I notice that you A-dog, are the innocent victim and I am the viillian, yet above, you state that many times you have "baited" me.  I also notice that the PM you sent me, which was sent "prior" to the one I sent you, was not posted by sueincc or you, but mine was.  Did you forget that I have the one you sent me and that they have dates and times on them, showing which was sent first.  Making your statement above "I have not thrown first stones." a blatant lie.

Additionally, you state above that "I know I have baited him in the past and I have stated my beliefs about his history very clearly but have not brought them up in the spirit of wanting no more of these things."  Well, ain't it a shame that you can not say what you want and be allowed to just get away with it.  Additionally, you state "my beliefs about his history".  What a "nice" way of saying that you called me a liar on many things of which I proved later beyond argument, yet no apology.

Furthermore, I had no clue that you know or are related to anyone that is "retarded".  I think that you are a crass jerk, but I would not use something like that on even you.  My reference you quoted above "another retarded old saying" was and is a direct response sarcastically towards Jeff Oehlsen's posting above where he stated "I think the quote is retarded. LOL" in reference to my quote of "a jack of all trades and a master of none".  I could have got on here and told everyone that my grandmother who raised me, use to say that about my father and my grandfather all of the time, and I used it because of her and in memory of her, but I did not.  Jeff did not know that and thus I am sure that he was not using my memory of my departed grandmother against me.  He was just being "jeff".

Yes, this IS ridiculous.  You want to be able to say whatever in the heck you want to say and suffer no consequences for it.  Ain't gonna happen.  You "reap what you sow" is another old retarded saying.

In the interest of honesty and forthrightness (did I just make up another word?), why don't you post your PM to me, that preceeded the one I sent you?  hmmm..................................I don't think that you will.

I could but I won't.  It was private.  But I would be happy to share it with those on here that doubt it exists, provided they are from the "side of the track with more class".  That remark is not directed at you if you happen to live in a trailer on the wrong side of the tracks and mentioned it two years ago and assume I know about it and used it to denegrate you.  It was make in response to the idiots that think it is fun to make fun of someone who works at a "YMCA", as if any legitimate honest job should ever be made fun of.  When you start making fun of where someone works, you are really scraping the bottom of the barrel for ammunition, and are obviously losing the b

battle.

From a lecture by Mr. E. Humphrey, international breeding expert, before shepherd breeders in 1926:

"W" represents outcrosses to wild Wolf blood early in the breed. This was done mostly in the "Saar" breeding and traces mostly through Wölfi v. Wolfsnest, 65. This cross has been lost to the breed or so diluted that it is practically non-existent to-day."      (my comments: apparently they had a system in those days by which letters represented different GSD blood lines. For example, "H" was Horand's. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can elaborate.)

Thanks DDRshep.  Interesting.  I am going to investigate him and those dogs a little more right now.

I sure wish "we" could get a difinitive answer from a final authority on this subject.  I just want to know if the wolf was used in this breeds development or not.  Not that it matters because it would in fact be diluted to almost nothing now.

However, it does bring up an interesting point of discussion and would have been fun to research, if this thread had not went south.  Wouldn't it be a nicer site if more of use wagged our tails when we approached each other, instread of raising our hackles.

I have the book which indicates so, but now I am concerned that interpretation may be faulty, because of dogs having wolf, wolfy or wolfie in the names, and something got messed up in the ranslation from German to English.

I don't care one way or the other actually.  It would mean nothing to me personally.  I am against such a cross now, after having researched it, but I am very curious and am convinced that wolf blood was used.  Too many things say so, and none of the head organizations have denied it, as far as I can find.  Seems to me that if it is not so, and they know and can prove that it is not so, they would put an end to the rumor and speculation once and for all.