Pups sold on limited or full registration - difference is price? - Page 4

"I'm glad Debby came on & gave an explanation and now I think it makes sense.  To me she is saying the cost of the pups is $1,400., however; if someone is solely looking for a pet, she will give them a discount, and a limited registration to keep everyone honest. If it were me, I probably would word it a bit differently." (sueincc)

This was my post, try to keep up, echo.

I saw your post Sueincc,  BUT you came right back with...

"she isn't saying SOME for one price and SOME for another.  She's saying all the pups can be had for either/or." <--- Sueincc QUOTE

then I said...sueincc,  some for one price and some for another eigther or ???  I more took it that she has some Pet Quality "Limited Reg."  and some with more potential "Full Reg."   I would predict that SHE would help purchasers make the determination as to which is which and which pups are more suitable for they're utility !!   Breeding, Pet, Working,.....

I'm glad Debby gave her own "Explanation" to you too it's just sad she had to "Defend" herself at all !!

Is there a fee for your service of   "ad policing"   or do you offer it for free ??

Honestly

Wow, if Limited Registration ='s pet quality I guess ALL SV Registered dogs are pet quality. It is the same idea.  Think about it.

I guess some of us don't simply breed for the all mighty dollar and ship our pups into the worl of the great unknown because I know for sure that the buyer is going to make the best decision for the dog. Is anything perfect, NO! As a breeder I would like to do my best to try to send my pups out into the world to handlers or families that will do their best to OFA & Title their dogs which are of age to breed.

Maybe it's all those years of working with Police handlers who all think their dogs should be bred because he is a tough Patrol Dog and they happen to have a female at home. Maybe its all the years of listening to other breeders who are breeding young dogs because SV allows you to certify Hips at 1 yr. Or maybe its watching all those nice GSD's die at the shelter because their breeder didn't give a damn. Guess what, if you think all those GSD's are from BYB's or Pet stores you are soarly mistaking. In the 12 years of doing GSD rescue I have had many imports, many dogs from "well known" breeders who yes, some are on this list, some are great sellers on the internet who purchased imported/titled dogs just to sell their pups but never spend a full day with that dog cause it lives kenneled. Now I have taken in SO many DDR lineaged dogs because we happen to have a breeder in the NE who pumps the pups out. Nice breeding sure, but all on full registration so if the dog isn't directly from that kennel, it is a grandpup from that kennel.

Just keep sending tose pups out litter by litter for the new owner to decide if it's bred worthy, probably never will contact you again, oh yah, that piece of paper you call a contract, pooie, what happens if they breed the dog? Most likely they void the agreement and now even if the puppy is dysplastic, you are free and clear and don't have to replace or refund, what a great deal for you, huh!

K-9mom    I'm not sure who you were directing your post to,  But our contract is specific and there are areas of the contract that NEVER void.  We do keep in touch with our buyers,  and our buyers are not fly by nite,  We spend hours upon hours with each purchaser,  and continue our support to them for the lifetime of the dog and beyond by the time that dog is old,  we will have a repor with these families, and will choose to stay in touch with them. 

I'm glad to hear that there is another person doing rescue,  It's always nice to know there are more and more in rescue who RECOGNIZE that not all GSD's in shelters are from the BYB's and Pet Stores !!!

All my pups are sold limited reg. and the males and females are the same price,
it's reasonable and in the middle.

to me all my dog are gold, I love my dogs, I love their temperaments,I try very hard 

to improve the breed, each time I have a litter.

If you think  I'm an a_ _ for having such a breeding program, too bad,

don't purchase a pup from me.

I would keep all my pups if I could, but I don't have the room, nor the time it takes to train 
everyone individually, I also hound (good word)  the people that get my pups, by checking 
on them & making sure they have really gone to good homes.

mirasmom,   Good for you keeping in touch with buyers is KEY in my op !!   thumbs up to you !!  :-)

It's called a FREE MARKET SOCIETY. People will only charge what they can get for their puppies, and who really cares what someone else charges? Would I pay $5000 for a puppy? No, but some people will. it's really none of anyone's business what other people are selling their puppies for unless they want to buy one. There are PLENTY of people out there selling pups, and that doesn't just include German Shepherd Dogs, and the prices range all over the place. Will I pay $2000 for a Labradoodle? No. But like I said before, who cares what someone else charges??? It's none of my (or anyone else's) business, in my opinion.

As for limited registration, there are uses for it. However, short of sterilizing or performing a vasectomy or tubal ligation on a puppy before it is placed, there is no way to guarantee that someone will not BREED the dog. I give limited registration on PET puppies at a discounted price, because they are not show quality, and limited registration according to the AKC also limits the dog from being shown, and progeny from being registered. The best way to assure that faulty dogs are not bred is to be highly proactive in what buyers you allow to purchase.

Of course, there will ALWAYS be someone out there who has to gossip and point fingers at someone else's breeding practices. They are known as gossip-mongers, and eventually everyone knows who they are and that to spread hate and discontent is their only joy in life, and we all learn to ignore them! 

JMHO!  ;)

-Melanie

Trafalgar,
If you got a pup from me and I had proof you are a responsible dog person and you understand
about hip problems that may arise or you're looking to title your dog in the future, I will be able to 
tell these things when speaking to you.  And I would let you have full reg. on the pup.

But if I have a person that simply wants a pet, and maybe they want one litter, you know,
so the kids can see the miracle of birth, I want them to think twice, 

 I wouldn't sell a dog limited to you,
them I would, it gets very complicated, but I can really tell, by all the people I have spoken to over the
years, what they are looking for, and what they want from their dog.
In a way it's my spay neuter agreement.

I sell my pups the same way.

Limited registeration is at a lower price

Full Registeration is higher because it is show/working or breeding quality.

Any puppies failing to show high prey drive by eight weeks of age are automatically limited and that cannot be lifted

as we feel they are not working material.

You want high quality and breeders who have researched and done the work to bring you that quality; then you have to

pay for it.