breeding contracts - Page 2

I don't do co-own or pup-share "deals".  The puppies are all owned by the owner of the female.  I get the stud fee, end of deal.  Not interested in any red tape.  I honor my part of the contract, the female gets pregnant or another one does for the stud fee - the female's owner gets puppies.  Everyone is happy.

molly

Molly,

Kudos to you for having a such a fair policy.  I'm glad you've got it all spelled out and organized.  I don't think there is anything missing.  I think a good, detailed contract is a sign of a quality breeder.  I just hate it when someone says "oh just trust me, we don't need anything in writing."  Ha!

Yvette

Yes as an owner of females also, I've also been "burned" several times, and have learned how to treat people coming with their females to my stud dog, and how not to treat them :).  I know how it is, and I won't treat them how I don't want to be treated as an owner of females that I also breed to outside stud dogs.

First when looking at outside stud dogs, as Angela mentioned - they must either have a current semen count/check, OR (and I prefer) a recent litter on the ground, or a confirmed pregnant female.  I will wait for another heat to breed to a stud dog that hasn't had the above as proof he is fertile.  Because of the stud fee - but even if it is a guaranteed litter - the female still wastes a cycle if she doesn't get pregnant - and the shipping/travel time needed is quite expensive, money lost if there are no puppies.  So, pays to be careful.

 I've also learned the hard way in sending my females to outside stud dogs whose owners don't guarantee puppies - or say they do then only allow two tries.  Shipping can be $600 or more - money lost no matter the stud fee.  I've also bred my female to dogs whose owners were very honest and easy to work with - I would repeat those experiences and not hesitate to recommend them and whatever stud dog they owned, in the future, and do.    One whose stud dog I bred an older female to for her last litter - she didn't take, I didn't want to try again with her - didn't have another female who suited this male - he refunded 1/2 my stud fee.  I was very satisfied with that.  Another who I sent two females to - first one didn't take - second female (different female) I sent her with the request to have him collected for AI for one of the breedings, to check him - which they did, showing he was sterile.  They refunded my stud fee, and paid for the shipping of the second female.  I was again, very pleased and will always remember this person as being honest and fair, will not hesitate to recommend them - and will always treat my own clients in the same manner.

Most recent female in for a breeding to my stud dog - she is 8 years old and it will be her last litter.  I told her owner not to pay me a cent until she has puppies on the ground - then the stud fee will be paid before I sign any paperwork for registration.  That way, if she doesnt' take (he doesn't own another female) then no charge for the stud fee that produces no puppies.  Fair for him, no problem for me or my stud dog.

molly

Marci... <"I had to lie" >  That's NOT cool!   Lying should never be an option, and you did have an agreement with the stud owner, verbal or not.  Sounds like they did their best to make things right with you.