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by vk4gsd on 29 December 2016 - 21:12

I have a double standard - every pet owner should think they have the best dog in the world.

OTOH breeders that think that should not be allowed to breed dogs.

Breeders should be digging deep to find everything wrong with their own dogs.

I know how hard I dig to find every fault with my stud cows using the entire force of modern science, field testing, anecdotes and so much data and testing it would blow most dog breeders minds.

But let's talk magic wands and how our Fido is the best things ever.


yogidog

by yogidog on 29 December 2016 - 21:12

I dont thi I have the best dog or anything like that . I think I have the dog that suits my purpose best . But he may not suit other people for what the need . BW im not calling u out I honestly think u have a lot to offer and u seem to know what u a talking about . Thats the reason I wanted to c your dog

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 29 December 2016 - 21:12

BW, can you really not understand my problem with your leap and taking my statement out of context? My dogs go plenty of places and plenty of knowledgeable folks have seen/worked them so I have no personal issue with what you're saying, and I have no dog in this fight, so to speak. My issue with you is your ridiculous assertion that by acknowledging that simply requiring trialing isn't going to stop people from seeing what they want to see, I therefore think no one should bother doing anything with their dogs and they should just sell them at high prices to unsuspecting people. That was a bogus conclusion out of left field.

vk4, you said the standard was good enough for you and isn't that why we have a standard. I agreed. Then I posted a dog I felt met the standard very well. I didn't post to say my dog is the best dog or post pics of my pooches. I think the thread was fairly on topic prior to that, save the same people posting how all their dogs are perfect. All my dogs are not perfect in terms of my visual ideal, however, I feel they meet the standard, and I think that is what people should focus on.

Totally agree with Joan. Blessed are the dogs featured in this thread. Very true that so many will never live up to the impossible eye of the perfectionist. I've been guilty of this myself, though I don't think guilty enough that the dog ever had a clue I hated their ears or whatever, lol.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 29 December 2016 - 21:12

vk, any decent breeder spends a ton of time researching issues or potential issues before doing a cross. Just because many don't doesn't mean that all don't. I spend hours upon hours for days to months researching the siblings and extended family of a new dog I'm considering if I don't know the dogs personally. I talk to owners, previous owners, look at the collected data, I've emailed owners of dogs who I felt died young and asked why. I've put the data together and turned down so many dogs that looked good at face value because my intentions are to move forward, not sell one generation of puppies. I am not the only one who does this- far from it. There are many like me who DO look far and wide for potential faults and are fiercely critical.

I bought myself a male as a stud dog and companion because I am so hard on my own dogs (again, dogs I've bred, not dogs I've bought) that I can't have the same relationship with them as I can a dog I bought because I don't take every tiny flaw personally. I realize I am a clueless pet breeder according to you, but surely, if someone as clueless as I am can do this, much better people can, too ;)

by vk4gsd on 29 December 2016 - 21:12

Don't take everything as a personal attack. We both know full well that of the thousands of gsd puppies born every year not a lot of planning goes into it.

Curious how would one find out the official number of the total registered gsd puppies in 2016. Estimate on unregistered?

Please all make an educated guess how many gsd puppies world wide in 2016.

Has to be at least in the tens of thousands?, hundreds of thousands?? Million is too many.

Guesses?


by Bavarian Wagon on 29 December 2016 - 21:12

I know your dogs do...but the statement about how people see what they want to see even when they train and title is exactly the statement that people that don't train and title use in order to make it seem like the training and titling is useless. I know that all of your dogs are titled, so I know that doesn’t apply to you. But just repeating that statement gives rise to the people that already don’t feel the need to put in any work.

My original answer in this thread was that if I had a magic wand, I’d require a minimum temperament test for all dogs, and I don’t really care what they look like. In the beginning, we had that, some countries still do. Mine in particular does not…and I directly correlate that to the state of the breed as a whole in my country. I didn’t state that it had to be IPO because I know that if I made that statement you’d have exactly the types of comments you saw…”well my dog did sports X, Y, Z and had points in the breed ring so it definitely makes it equal to the dogs winning the WUSV.” I don’t know what a perfect test would be…for me, strictly obedience titles don’t do it, more needs to be tested. Everyone here craps all over IPO every chance they get for being too easy, yet a miniscule percentage of dogs are titled in this “way too easy” sport. If barely anyone titles in IPO, how can we expect the minimum standard to be more difficult than that and expect people to go for it (I’m being realistic here)?

Mithuna

by Mithuna on 29 December 2016 - 23:12

@SS "no, that's NOT me in the background...I'm the one bribing her with a treat.) "

Sun are you shying away from the BBW label?Tongue Smile


by vk4gsd on 29 December 2016 - 23:12

BBW???

Mithuna

by Mithuna on 29 December 2016 - 23:12

Vk its an American thing.

by Swarnendu on 30 December 2016 - 06:12

And here I am, going all the way back to page 6 to check that out!

Men will be men...





 


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