Clarification on WDA members participating in USA events? - Page 9

 Rik:

        I respectfully disagree.

  AKC is the "recognized" registry.....But they are NOT a member of the FCI and don't think they ever will be, if they would to try they would have to follow the FCI breed standards and too much money in it for AKC to try and change to that...won't happen, in my opinion....

 Unknown:

                    Here is a little more instability for the equasion. I,ve heard that the S.V. isn,t all cracked up with Schutzhund titles going the way of the Dodo and at the first of the year or before may not follow with the F.C.I. plan. That would really put a twist in the old knickers...

 Bob

 I haven't heard that....I just know that out of the 7 names listed on writting the new rules, 3 are Germans, Diegel, Schaepermeier, and Scherkl....so hopefully the SV are on board

Bob, no need to be respectful. I see where you are coming from and what you are saying and I don't disagree at all.

All I'm saying is that UScA feels it is important enough to get their judges SVR. I know it doesn't make a bit of difference in the dogs ability or training and these judges judged a lot of trials before SVR, but once it gets past the individual dog and trainer and into the realm of competition (of any kind), it begins to become less about the dog and more about the game.

best,
Rik

Unknown,

I fine with agreeing to disagree but I can tell from your response I'm not expressing my point in a manner that you understand what my point is. I'll try again and if it's not clear, we can agree to disagree as it's really not worth spending this amount of time discussing it.

USA has a glitch in their way of doing business. I'm suggesting they fix their glitch. Simple as that. I'm perfectly aware of who and what all the organizations are and there needs to be no discussion about them to understand USA's dilemma that I'm discussing in this example that affect participation in USA events which is what this thread is about.

Here's the glitch. USA has people that are qualified to enter events. These people are members of WUSV organizations and by a reciprocal agreement are not only sought after to enter, but are entitled to enter. As a WUSV affiliate club member I can enter. OK I sent my entry in and I'm all entered. I can drive the distance and trial my dog. I'm all set.

When I arrive I find out that I can't participate because I can't get a scorebook from the organization sanctioning the event. I've been given the privilege to enter, but I have not been given the privilege to participate.

I would think the two need to go together. If you are registered to vote in an election, allowed to vote in an election. There should be means by which you can cast a vote.

If my Costco membership entitles me to participate in a automobile dealerships special program, when I go to the dealer,,,I should be able to buy a car.

USA has created a situation where they allow business but can't do business. They should fix the situation. It's their situation, created by them, working within established agreements in existence way before the JA. It's their problem to fix and they should.

 Dog1

 You are twisting it around.... some..... I understand what you are saying, it just does NOT make sense from UScA stand point. The agreement is that members of WUSV orgs may enter using the WUSV membership in shows and WUSV membership and WUSV member issued Scorebook in trials....your problem is that YOUR WUSV member org does not issue scorebooks. You might have better luck trying to convince YOUR club to issue scorebooks then trying to convince a club, you support in no way, to change what they are doing.......Like I said before, if UScA sold scorebooks to anyone (all non members) they would be committing financial suicide.....Then EVERYONE could just buy a scorebook every 5-6 years (for $50- $100 or whatever) and not pay yearly dues....It would not make fiscal sense for UScA's well being.....

  UScA did not create this situation....GSDCA did by not issueing scorebooks....

 I know you want it, but like I said,  it might be easier for you to get YOUR org to issue scorebooks.....

Couldn't GSDCA just start issuing scorebooks? That would solve the problem.

If you got your dog an SV scorebook, that would fix it, too, correct? Can you do that living in the US?

  gagsd4...YES

  
  VonIsengard  correct a SV scorebook would work, don't know if the SV will issue scorebooks to foreign members or not....


  In either case all that would have to happen after that is UScA "certifies" the scorebook and you are good to go......