Well Bred vs Backyard Bred - Page 9

"and as Keith will tell you, I don't know much and am therefore easily confused."

Now, Jen; I never implied any such thing.  I'm still waiting for you to tell us how the dogs from eastern bloc countries, who were essentially segregated from the rest of the world for 45 years, achieved such diversity in their bloodlines? 

When you're done wrestling with that question (and for the time being we'll ignore the obvious question of the accuracy of their pedigrees), start working on your explanation of how people who stood in line for hours for a loaf of bread and drove what were essentailly cardboard cars managed to actually get x-rays and meaningful hip certifications on their dogs.

I'm just wondering; it isn't like I was living in Germany while the wall was up...oh, wait, yes, I was! 

"Keith, thank God! You're making sense again. Thought we'd lost ya."

Uh, oh... you're probably not going to like what I just posted. 

I don't care what you just wrote. I never said diddly squat about any of those things, so it's irrelevant to me. Find where I talked about "eastern bloc countries", hip xrays, pedigrees, or any of the things you just mentioned, and THEN I'll get mad about what you just posted. Until then, your post is just more meaningless ramblings from a man. LMAO.

Edited to add....though I kind of disagee w/the importance you are placing on hip xrays, etc. I'd call dogs living/thriving in this kind of environment fairly strong, and I would think that especially people w/nothing would certainly not be allowing useless dogs to suck them dry. Most dogs I'm familiar with that come from very poor countries are stronger simply because of slightly more natural selection processes, exactly the opposite of this country where we so often make excuses for weakness and treat every illness/weakness instead of letting nature take its course. Just another perspective from a know-nothing woman.

i come from a military back ground as well keith.

and i do not get caught up in the 'bad ass dogs" as you stated. I never have. if you read my above post you would see that.

and to the money aspect you would see i commented on that as well as i have pretrained/ built up many rescue dogs for our state troopers here. As they are low budget and dont want to deal with bidding and politics of buying dogs here. they just give us a tax credit.

i understand those aspects fairly well.

"...though I kind of disagee w/the importance you are placing on hip xrays, etc."

Wow.  And there we have it... 

There we have what?! WTF are you talking about? Pathetic attempt at more smoke in mirrors, Keith. I'm a bit disappointed in your numerous attempts to distract us all from the real issue at hand (health of VA dogs was the original question, in case everyone's forgotten).

Typical- take one line out of a whole paragraph and try to spin off on a tangent about it to further distract and derail the thread. Ignore all I said about natural selection via harsh living conditions and focus on one part of a sentence and skew the meaning. Perhaps you should be in politics. The rest of us can smell b.s. a mile away, dear.

To remind you of what I actually said, as opposed to the way you attempted to paint it: ...".though I kind of disagee w/the importance you are placing on hip xrays, etc. I'd call dogs living/thriving in this kind of environment fairly strong, and I would think that especially people w/nothing would certainly not be allowing useless dogs to suck them dry. Most dogs I'm familiar with that come from very poor countries are stronger simply because of slightly more natural selection processes, exactly the opposite of this country where we so often make excuses for weakness and treat every illness/weakness instead of letting nature take its course. Just another perspective from a know-nothing woman."

Jenni, Give up, after a few posts you have to consider the content of the posts and let somebody less knowledgable engage the people with heads in the sand. It is what it is and all the defensiveness and distortion supports this. Move on!! It will only get worse, and the excuses greater...move on!!

Yes, I know you're right, but it just so happens that my mom took the baby and I was left with nothing better to do. LOL.  You're right though. This is my last post in this thread.

"Jenni, Give up, after a few posts you have to consider the content of the posts and let somebody less knowledgable..."

Yes, because someone who owned his first GSD before she was born and brought his next  dog back to the U.S. from Germany with him in 1986 couldn't possibly have more insight than someone just getting started in the breed.  

Young'ns..........brought my first one back from then FRG in 82......Had first litter there in 79.  :)  that is 19.......79/82.......not 1879/82......LOL