Shelley and the GSD Underground Railway - Page 9

I know where she is,
SCAREY. The boogie man knows where I am?

She stated one thing, yet she hasn't left the state, which makes her a liar.
Wrong. I have been in at least 8 states since July 10. I saw the "Welcome to Pennsylvania" sign in my rear-view mirror the first night.

I want to know all of the answers.
Why? For whom?

Why is someone claiming to be halfway to California when they haven't left Pennsylvania?
What? My dog went to WI, entered a trial with a gal who looked like me, and didn't even tell me?
Faithless hound!

I just think it is fishy when somebody has been offered numerous homes over the last few years and never actually contacts those that offer. People offer to use your PAYPAL account, yet you would rather they sent money order.
Wrong, wrong, and wrong.

All I am asking is for the attorney's info or the police department.
I am asking for the police department that wrote the report.
You want full-color pix and videos too? They do exist, LOTS of them, long since transferred to "safe" hands, with explicit instructions, just in case something ever happened to me. I am not stupid enough to have kept them in the house, let alone carry them with me. How's THAT for an exit strategy?

Call me sensitive, but this person, whoever it is, having joined this board only in June of this year (under the current screen name at least) and claiming to have been reading my posts for some two years, is starting to frighten me. Their style of writing and manipulative insistence is starting to strike a vaguely familiar CHORD. I'm betting it is the unidentified male who called and woke me up after normal hours about a week ago, Caller ID "Blocked" having scared me then too. If I am correct in my suspicions, this is not the first time this person has stalked me or someone else (female of course) on this board. 

So much for sleep tonight.

Shelley if he is the "stalker" as long as you are gone from PA you will be safe. 
I find this story very upsetting.  I remember when you were building the kennels.  Wasn't that your husband who helped you do that? 
I have never read all the posts on this board as they are quite childish most of the time so I have missed the past threads about your abusive situation.  I always thought you had a great life with your dogs and your husband who helped you build all of that (kennels etc.)  
I am very sad for you.  Whatever is going on (and most of us can read between the lines, the only thing missing is the gory details) I hope you find happiness.  There are a ton of good people on this board who care and are willing to help.  You ARE a lucky woman.
Spade-if she is lying, then Karma is a bitch.   The universe will take care of it, it will also give back to those who trusted and helped this woman in need.

Good Luck and God speed.

Carter

Something interesting I have noted here, Sam...

I've been lurking, and posting here, since late last year.  I read for a while before I registered.

When you read a person's posts, you begin to get a feel for what sort of a person they are.  They might hide their true colors for a while, but after a while, the fake falls off and the real person shines through, even if you don't know their real name, or where they actually live.

I could tell quite a few of you quite a lot about what kind of people you are, but I will reserve my opinions to myself.  I can say, though, never having met Shelley in person, or talked to her on the phone, that she's a damned decent person, an abused woman who finally had all that she could tolerate from a drunken bastard of a man.  Her sins aside, there are a lot of abused women, who have gone from one bad situation to another, until they finally broke free of the mud and found their way out of Hell.  They stay as long as they do because they are AFRAID to leave, AFRAID to call the police, AFRAID to defend themselves, for fear of what will happen if they do.  Some women never can get past that fear, and those are the ones that end up DEAD.

Shelley got out, pure and simple.  As for where she is, and why she won't PM you her personal info or post it here...She has no way of knowing who you are.  You could be a friend of the ex, or who knows what?  There are known friends of hers on this board, and they are handling things for her, giving her a bit of protection from the man.  Regardless of where she is right now, or what she's doing, I know that mobjack, Kalibeck, and KrazyBoutK9's are handling things for her, handling donations and coordinating things for Shelley.

As for wasting time posting on a dog forum...We are Shelley's moral support.  Have you ever been in a position where you have ever needed a shoulder?  Needed someone to vent to?  Needed to just know that someone gave a damn whether you lived or died?  Strangers on the Internet?  I have met several people here that I consider to be friends of mine, damn good, decent people.  People that I would never have met if not for this wonderful forum.  And I am not one to make friends lightly, believe me.

I will help Shelley as I can, and I'll be content to let those who know her best coordinate the efforts.  Why isn't she on the west coast?  Well, only a few here actually know where she is, and frankly, I wouldn't undertake to travel clear across the US with a van that might break down at any time.  I applaud Shelley for her courage in doing what she's doing.

As for the snide remark about the concert, I got the impression, from having read the posts, that the tickets were donated, so it's not like Shelley's on here begging for money, then going hog wild on your money, playing around.  And it's mighty selfish to imply that, when it's clear that this is not the case, not at all.

Yes, she could get rid of the dogs and make the financial situation better, but simply, what is left when you get rid of all that matters to you?   The GSD is a woman's (and a man's, for you men out there) best friend, and I would be hard pressed to want to give up Oakley, no matter what, and I don't have nearly as much time, love, training, etc invested as Shelley does in her dogs.

So please, get off the soapbox.  Shelley's need is real.  She trusts only a few because screen names are easy to hide behind, and we all know her ex has people monitoring this board, so naturally she is wary.  Give her a break.

Crys

Well said Cry's
Shelley only needs to confide in people she knows and more so her own sex, for it is easier for her to relate to them than us Guys, as Crys said everything is being looked after
 Sam all she needs from the rest of us is moral and if possible finacial support to get through this and live a fear free life again, Not much to ask for of anyone,
 Yourself i am beginning to wonder your motives in wanting and it seems insisting on what you think you should know, which frankly is none of yours or our  business
Steve

SAM SPADE;   CALL  a spade a spade or whatever...what is wrong with you...???Do you not see why ??? We do not know who you are either...nor do we care..When you got 10 people tell you ,,  It is legit Sam and we are handling things ..you do not need to complicate them...send some change to where Mobyjack said or send it privately to Debsue or the others..but do it privately and get off the indictment stand.

HOW MANY of us have to tell you    ???  we all know Shelley,,, she cannot get to Kbout Dogs...She lives clear across the usa...How does she get there??? Call Obama and charter his Jet if you are so adamant that she get to Montana before sundown...

I OFFERED HER TO COME TO MY  PLACE...HOW IN GODS NAME DO YOU THING SHE CAN GET HERE?  2000 MILES BY ANGEL WINGS/??????This fund was started to get her accross the USA, SO PUT YOUR TWO CENTS IN AND STOP THE BANTERING ON THIS FORUM..YOU ARE SCARING ALL OF US...PM ONE OF HER FRIENDS OR LEAVE IT..YOU DO NOT NEED TO SERVE AS JUDGE FOR HER CASE.  WE ALL KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE..YOU DO NOT...If you are so worried about your money being spent wrong...put it in the offering plate at church. 

PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA, NEVADA, IDAHO, OREGON AND WASHINGSTATE HAVE OFFERED HER HOME AND JOBS  IN DOGS OR HELP TO FIND A JOB...........HOW DOES SHE GET THERE...SHE IS IN PA AND HAS BEEN TRIALING AND WORKING HER DOGS FOR THE LAST 35 DAYS...SHE IS BEING TAKEN CARE OF. NO ONE LIED...DUH   USE YOUR BRAIN......THINK MAN THINK....WE ALL ASK HER TO CHECK IN ON  HERE AND LET EVERY ONE KNOW WHERE AND ABOUT WHERE SHE IS...IT IS SCARY TO NOT HAVE HOME BASE......WE ARE THE HOME BASE.....RIGHT NOW...MOLLY IS HOME BASE RIGHT NOW...THEY ARE TRYING TO HAVE A WORK SHOP AND CONDUCT DOG BUSINESS.  and line up work and you are insulting all of us...

STOP YOUR ATTACK ON SHELLEY....IT IS NOT NECESSARY.   We have all told you....she is legit...we all know what and where she is ....IT IS NOT anyones business but her friends and the people helping her... My GOODNESS....WHEN YOU HAVE 5 trainers and 3 members of this database come on here and tell you ...Sam SPADE... HELP OR NOT...BUT THE INFO IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS....DO YOU NOT GET IT....  

You are putting her in danger , just asking...Stop>...DO NOT KNOW  where you train , but hope your club fills you in...who Shelley is and she did not start this thread nor the other ones..those are friends of hers and if you were on here every week and kept up with this board , you would know who they all are...Three of them are in her club...my goodness...what do we do to stop this insanity....

It is not to be discussed on this forum....She is joking with all of us to cover her grief and trying to make her nerves settle..she does not know how to do all this alone..we are her gate keeper....the very reason she never stepped out of it till now.. She needed encouragement from the right kind of people.Doesn' matter how many times she has told the story,....time was not right.

I think you guys are reading too much into my posts.  I think that spousal abuse is a problem and there are alot of cases out there.  But then again, same can be said about fraud.  I feel for any woman OR man that is abused. 

How am I a stalker?  I have only addressed Shelley, I believe once.  The rest of my posts have been directed to other posters.  If you read the rest of my posting history, I don't engage in OT threads. 

How am I being a stalker by asking for an attorney or police department's info?  I am willing to help as long as there is a legitimate situation.  I cannot verify a legitimate situation because 10 people have faith in someone that is accross the country.

And GRACIE,  Oli doesn't need to do anything.  This was brought to a public forum and I have a right to voice my opinion.  Where have I stepped out of bounds?  I think I have been cordial.  I am not a troll that tries to get a rise. 

I will leave this forum on my own.  Not like it's for dogs anyhow.